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Offline ronbow

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Carbon Arrow question
« on: March 09, 2007, 03:06:22 AM »
After 20 years of using Easton xx75 aluminum shafts, I am trying out a 1/2 doz. Gold Tip XT Hunters arrows I had made up at the new Bowhunters Superstore (thank god they are back). I did not realize that the nocks had to be glued in, So If I damage a nock do I have to discard the whole arrow ? With the aluminum arrows I can replace the nocks due to the nock insert. The only reason I am interested in carbon is to pick up more speed in order to compensate for errors in judging distance. I figure that with the weight difference I'll pick up close to 30 FPS (490 gr. vs. 380gr.) out of my Mathews Outback (70 lbs. 29 in.). Also I have always cut and fletched my aluminum arrows. Is there a trick to cutting off and replacing damaged fletch on the carbons ? Will Acetone to remove the old glue harm the carbon ? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 02:23:57 PM »
If you carefully heat the nock with a lighter, the glue should release and let you replace it.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 02:35:23 PM »
Use sand paper to remove the glue,acetone may break down the bonding of the arrow depending on manufacture,I shoot carbon weave shafts and they are bonded using a process that can be destroyed with acetone.
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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 03:12:45 AM »
Thanks gentlemen. I 'm gonna try hot melt at low heat (hair dryer maybe). I'll skip the acetone.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 03:16:54 AM »
Thanks gentlemen. I 'm gonna try hot melt at low heat (hair dryer maybe). I'll skip the acetone.

After talking (email) to the Gold Tip tech. rep. I was advised that holding an ordinary plastic shopping bag over the open nock end of the shaft (loosely so the nock will push in some plastic) and shoving in the nock would give me a tight but adjustable nock. Worked like a charm. The Gold tip guy was very prompt and informative.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 08:02:39 AM »
hair dryers work great for removing nocks and inserts, using a razor blade to shave of the fletch is how I  get it and the adhesive off.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 03:08:49 PM »
Thanks gentlemen. I 'm gonna try hot melt at low heat (hair dryer maybe). I'll skip the acetone.

After talking (email) to the Gold Tip tech. rep. I was advised that holding an ordinary plastic shopping bag over the open nock end of the shaft (loosely so the nock will push in some plastic) and shoving in the nock would give me a tight but adjustable nock. Worked like a charm. The Gold tip guy was very prompt and informative.
Ill have to try that, thanks 8)

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2007, 04:37:55 AM »
Never herd of gluing in a nock on Gold Tip Hunters.I have always press fitted them without any problems.The inserts yes.
To get out the insert out i heat up an old tip and put it in the insert and keep pulling until it comes loose,and put it in cold water asap.pan.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2007, 02:55:21 PM »
Gluing in a nock on my GT is new to me also.  Never had to do that.  In fact to tune an arrow you may have to rotate the nock to a new fletching to fine-tune it to the group.  Hard to do if it's glued.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 07:02:12 AM »
i've never glued a nock on my gold tips or my new Carbon Expresses.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 07:10:22 AM »
Must be talking about the inserts. You shouldn't have to glue the nocks.  At least for the CE Maxima's they just snap in so you can rotate to tune the arrow if needed.
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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 08:49:56 AM »
Must be talking about the inserts. You shouldn't have to glue the nocks.  At least for the CE Maxima's they just snap in so you can rotate to tune the arrow if needed.
I found this odd also but the instructions on the bow (in bold letters) were to definitely glue in the nocks. The nocks were very easy to rotate and remove until I used the plastic bag trick. And now that I have installed a QAD drop away rest the point is moot.

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Re: Carbon Arrow question
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 10:33:58 AM »
I found this odd also but the instructions on the bow (in bold letters) were to definitely glue in the nocks. The nocks were very easy to rotate and remove until I used the plastic bag trick. And now that I have installed a QAD drop away rest the point is moot.

It sounds like a good trick though.  I would still do it.  Its nice to be able to tune your arrows anyway. Even with the drop-away, I always have the cock feather aligned with the nock slit, sticking straight up.
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