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NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« on: March 27, 2007, 12:38:15 AM »
I chronographed the NEF .44 mag loads using the SOLO 4100 powder.
I thought my CHRONY was malfunctioning because the first 3 shots clocked in at 1562. The 3 shot were in a .650" cluster. The next 2 shots were one ragged hole .75" below the first 3 shots. They clocked in at 1579, and 1599.
The total group size ended up being 1.418" (50 yards)

I then shot a 100 yard 3 shot group 1.778" average velocity 1578fps.

The load data:
Winchester Brass (new)
240 gr Hornady XTP
20.3 gr SOLO 4100
WLP primers
Firm roll crimp at the leading edge of the cannelure.
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2007, 02:39:56 AM »
have you slugged the barrel? Is their any way of you finding what the diameter of the barrel is and  what is the year of production?...Thanks....<><.... :)
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2007, 07:52:55 AM »
have you slugged the barrel? Is their any way of you finding what the diameter of the barrel is and  what is the year of production?...Thanks....<><.... :)
The Barrel is new from NEF (less 1 month old)
I haven't slugged the barrel, but my wife slugged me when I handed her the bill!;D

  I don't think I'll be shooting cast so I don't really see a need to slug it except the it will appease a rising curiosity amoung the rabid NEF owners.  ;)
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2007, 08:00:01 AM »
I haven't slugged the barrel, but my wife slugged me when I handed her the bill!;D
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Now that's funny   :D

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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2007, 09:39:14 AM »
"I don't think I'll be shooting cast so I don't really see a need to slug it except the it will appease a rising curiosity among the rabid NEF owners."

Your correct there buddy, many here have been waiting in the wings for H&R/NEF to produce a properly sized .44 Mag barrel, something in the .429 to .430 range so it would shoot factory ammo and standard sized, not only oversized bullets or full power loads well....<><....  :)
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2007, 10:55:03 AM »
I also am curious, but I understand if you if you don't want to slug it.  simply looking at the bore may tell the story--is it micro-groove type rifling?  If not it may be that all the new 44 caliber barrels are broached and 1-20 twist.

How about checking the twist rate and the rifling type for us??

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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2007, 02:00:33 PM »

 Hello Vance, Long time you been gone, In your loads for 44 Mag
 You listed  WIR primers, My thought you might want to try LR primers,
 Mag Large pistol primers Just my thoughts.
 How is your Dad doing? you still waking him early with your shooting?
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2007, 04:19:58 PM »
Hello Marv!!! Glad you computer is back up and running!!! You were spoken of while you were gone buddy, and don't worry, it all was good!!!....<><.... ;)
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2007, 12:18:15 AM »
I also am curious, but I understand if you if you don't want to slug it.  simply looking at the bore may tell the story--is it micro-groove type rifling?  If not it may be that all the new 44 caliber barrels are broached and 1-20 twist.

How about checking the twist rate and the rifling type for us??
Thankfully it is not microgroove.
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2007, 12:22:39 AM »

 Hello Vance, Long time you been gone, In your loads for 44 Mag
 You listed  WIR primers, My thought you might want to try LR primers,
 Mag Large pistol primers Just my thoughts.
 How is your Dad doing? you still waking him early with your shooting?
 Marv.
Hey Marv,
 Hope you're doing well.
 The primers I'm using are WLP is says on the card for large pistol or magnum loads. My .41 mag seems to prefer the these WLP primers.
 Dad is doing well. I don't don't shoot as much at the house range since I built another house on the property. Some folks don't like the sound of freedom, if you know what I mean.
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2007, 08:18:49 AM »
....except the it will appease a rising curiosity amoung the rabid NEF owners.  ;)
O.K. Soooo, .....please check the twist and slug the freaking bore!!
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2007, 05:45:56 PM »
....except the it will appease a rising curiosity amoung the rabid NEF owners.  ;)
O.K. Soooo, .....please check the twist and slug the freaking bore!!

Patience young grasshopper! :)
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Re: NEF 44 magnum loads chronograph results SOLO 4100 powder
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 03:45:22 PM »
Finished up this job today. Cut down to just the notes that matter and worth remembering enough to put in the log book...

NEF 44 mag, single shot, 22 inch barrel end to end slugged the bore - .4295
Good solid rings, Leupold adjust windage rings
Bushnell 3x9x40
C/L of scope +2" over rifle bore, high rings due to hammer spur

44 mag reloads, shell length all trimmed to match the shortest one
240 grain jacketed hollow point speer bullets, 1.615 OAL of loaded bullet in the shell
17.2 grains of Blue dot
CCI Large pistol primer

Chrony
1 1691fps +3" @ 25 yards, -10 clicks
2 & 3 1731fps +3", L 2";and 1716fps touching #2 @ 50 yards, -24 clicks, R 12 clicks
4 1696fps dead on bulls eye
5 & 6 stacked on top of 4 at 50 yards.