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How many reload for their GLOCKS
« on: March 29, 2007, 01:38:31 PM »
Got a 40S&W and a 357 sig. What do you reload for
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 05:05:14 PM »
9mm and .45acp in Glocks. 38/357/40/10mm/44spl/44mag/45lLC for other handguns.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 04:57:18 PM »
Most of what I shoot in everything I have is reloaded.
Glock 19 especially.. Have no Idea how many rounds have been through that Glock...
Lots and Lots though.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2007, 12:28:39 AM »
My son and I have just started loading for our Glocks.   40S&W and 9MM for the Glocks, and 38Special 45ACP and 45Colt for the other pistols.  With the savings we figure we can pay for the loader in a couple of months.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 12:33:09 PM »
I reload 357SIG. for my M31.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 12:56:14 PM »
My G20 has never had a factory round shot in it.
It also has had many lead bullets down the pipe

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 06:33:12 AM »
Models 22 and 36.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 05:29:20 AM »
I reload for my G20 10mm, my G22 40 caliber and 357 Sig.  I have a 357 Sig Barrel that fits into my G22, 40 caliber.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 04:43:42 PM »
10 mm and .45 ;)
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2007, 09:58:58 AM »
122 grain cast with 4.2 grains of ww231 in my glock 19 is mild and reliable and drops the brass right at my feet.
115 jacketed with 4.7 grains of ww 231 is mild and accurate.
For full hot loads stick with factory ammo or try Accurate Arms #7 and stick to published data. 

I don't think I would reload for a Glock in 40 S&W.  Way to many stories about blow ups.   Be extra careful and conservative if you reload for that combo.   

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2007, 02:58:03 PM »
Are most of you that reload shoot factory bbl or aftermarket?  I'm asking because I have a 20 /extra ported storm lake bbl and been thinking about reloading.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2007, 11:32:53 AM »
Mine is a Glock 20 with factory barrel

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2007, 01:08:08 AM »
With the exception of the mdl 36, all my Glocks get an aftermarket barrel. The two reasons I do this is, better case support and cut rifling in aftermarket barrels. My current favorite aftermarket barrel is the "Lone Wolff" Available for Lone Wolff Distributors for about $90.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2007, 04:32:39 PM »
i have a glock model22 i'm still up in the air about reloading .i've been using cabelas bulk ammo and to date no problems. if i decide to keep it i'll go for a new barrel and dies. by the way do these aftermarket barrels droop in ,or do they have to be fitted by a gunsmith?
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2007, 01:08:58 AM »
With Glock tolerances, aftermarket barrels drop right in. They usually have better case support, and mine have shot more accurately than the factory barrels. Plus, lead bullets are generally cheaper than jacketed. If you shoot a lot, payback comes early!
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2007, 08:06:49 PM »

I don't think I would reload for a Glock in 40 S&W.  Way to many stories about blow ups.   Be extra careful and conservative if you reload for that combo.   

You hear so much about it because:

A: GLOCK .40's used to have less supported chambers. GLOCK beefed up the top of the feed ramp a few years back.
B: GLOCK .40's are VERY popular in law enforcement AND civilian usage, therefor, more stories surface due to so many in use
C: Alot, if not nearly all damages from kB's (kaBoom is the term for a blown up pistol, haven't seen it used on this site yet) is from an overcharged .40 round. The .40 is already in essence a +p+ round, and cannot really be loaded "hot", its already "hot".

Combine the 3 and you have panic that everyone's G22/G22C/G23/G23C/G24/G24C/G27 is gonna blow up.

Fact is it happens to all guns, in all calibers. The mass hysteria just hears more about, and focuses more on the GLOCK in .40.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2007, 04:37:01 AM »
I have 9s and .40s.  I only reload for the .40 since you can find 9mm so cheap.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 05:29:25 AM »
jpshaw,
Glad you are still finding cheap 9mm ammo in your AO. Around here it's up to around $9 a box. A year ago, you could buy Blazer Aluminum for $3.86. I'm reloading it again now!
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2007, 12:24:06 PM »
I've been reloading for my first generation Glock 21 for many years now.  I just shortened and reshaped the grip and modified a full length magazine this summer and now have a 21/30..............Mike

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2008, 04:07:17 AM »
Re Loads are fine for target, but with my G23 for concealed carry, I would never carry with re loads. JMO.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2008, 02:30:53 AM »
Re Loads are fine for target, but with my G23 for concealed carry, I would never carry with re loads. JMO.
Well, here we go again!

I have added a .40 to my Glocks, along with an aftermarket barrel from Lone Wolf, of course. Naturally I reload for it as well. 175 gr LSWC for action pistol stuff. Shoots great, makes power factor with ease.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2008, 02:48:03 AM »
Re Loads are fine for target, but with my G23 for concealed carry, I would never carry with re loads. JMO.
Well, here we go again!

I have added a .40 to my Glocks, along with an aftermarket barrel from Lone Wolf, of course. Naturally I reload for it as well. 175 gr LSWC for action pistol stuff. Shoots great, makes power factor with ease.

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I just don't use reloads for my personal defense weapon. Not to rain on any ones parade. I was taught not to take a chance with your life with a mis-fire. and if you had to defend your justified shooting in court, you might have a problem with altered guns or reloads. I see it as, I won't run re tread tires on my truck either..LOL Just my thoughts. Sorry if you took this as a here we go again thing. Take care.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2008, 03:22:45 AM »
Sorry if you took this as a here we go again thing. Take care
Not intended as a negative, just done in anticipation of all the strong opinions usually voiced by both sides on that subject. I don't carry reloads in my social guns either, but not because of reliability issues or fear of litigation. I just realize that I can't load anything that is superior to the factory offerings.  Well, time to duck! Good shooting glockman55!!
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2008, 11:07:42 AM »
Some thing to ponder..

HANDLOADS FOR SELF-DEFENSE:THE DANIEL BIAS CASE
The Ayoob Files
Situation: Authorities try to determine if a death was suicide, blameless accident, manslaughter, or murder by replicating gunshot residue.
Lessons: Load easily replicable factory rounds in your defense guns … and don’t leave firearms where suicidal people can access them.
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Trouble With Handloads


I decided to focus on this case this month after an interminable discussion that ran over five computer threads on four electronic Internet forums on the subject of liability that can be incurred by using handloads in defensive firearms. I took the position I take here — don’t use handloads in defensive firearms — and challenged those who preferred them to give a tactically sound reason why.

With thousands of views logged, the only reasons for carrying reloads were: “I get an inch at 25 yards with my loads, and only 2" groups with Hydra-Shok.” This, I submit, is not a decisive advantage, and if you think it is, there are many affordable factory handguns that will put five shots in an inch at 25 yards with the right factory ammo. See American Handgunner 2006 Tactical Annual, page 82.

“I save as much as 50 cents a cartridge with my carry reloads.” Balance that against Danny Bias’ sixfigure legal bill in just his first trial, not at all uncommon in murder cases, and factory ammo can be extraordinarily cheap insurance. Once you know your gun feeds with your preferred factory round, you can pretty much duplicate it for practice and get your cost savings there.

“My ammo is more reliable than factory.” One poster noted his pistol had locked up on him when he fired a factory cartridge that didn’t have a flash-hole, a one-in-million occurrence. While you may well be one of those very few who can actually handcraft better ammo, is it enough to warrant the liability it brings? And when you’re accused of handloading “to make deadlier ammo” (as happened in another case, N.H. v. James Kennedy), can you convince a jury of 12 lay people you make better cartridges by yourself, after work, with a few thousand dollars worth of hobbyist equipment, than is produced at a vast ammunition factory with quality control and trained engineers?

The “regular bullets weren’t deadly enough for you” argument is not the big reason I recommend against handloads for defense. The forensic replicability factor is the main reason. Listen to John Lanza, who had to fight for Danny Bias’ future in court.

“When a hand load is used in an incident which becomes the subject of a civil or criminal trial, the duplication of that hand load poses a significant problem for both the plaintiff or the prosecutor and the defendant. Once used, there is no way, with certainty, to determine the amount of powder or propellant used for that load. This becomes significant when forensic testing is used in an effort to duplicate the shot and the resulting evidence on the victim or target. Stippling or powder residue, and its amount, would relate to the distance between the barrel of the firearm and the victim or target. Lack of powder residue would reflect a distant shot as opposed to the presence of powder residue which would reflect or prove a close shot,” explains Attorney Lanza, who adds, “With the commercial load, one would be in a better position to argue the uniformity between the loads used for testing and the subject load.”

When I asked Elizabeth Smith about the handload crippling Danny’s defense, she replied, “You’re certainly right about that. Gunshot residue was absolutely the focus of the first trial. The prosecution kept going back to the statement, ‘It couldn’t have happened the way he said it did.’”

For several years, certain “Net Ninjas” have been spreading the false belief that no one has ever gotten in trouble in court from using handloads. Now you know better. The records of the N.J. v. Daniel N. Bias trials are archived at the Superior Court of New Jersey, Warren County, 313 Second Street, P.O. Box 900, Belvedere, NJ 97823. Those wishing to follow his appellate process can begin with the Atlantic Reporter at 142 NJ 572, 667 A.2d 190 (Table). The only reason handloads have not been a factor in more cases is that most people who go in harm’s way are already smart enough not to use them for defense.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2008, 03:08:16 PM »
Yep, I have read that article. Still a good read.
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 04:56:28 PM »
It doesn't matter what you use, in many states if you use deadly force you are in for the hassle of you life.  The NRA is clear about that in their personal/home defense training, and they are right.  It is likely you will loose your weapon, go to jail at least for a while, may be tried for criminal charges, and also civil lawsuit.  The best reason for not using reloads is that it may be one less thing to deal with while digging out of the rest of the mess.   
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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2008, 11:18:19 PM »
reload for the models 22,19,35

many 10s of thousands of rounds fired down range with no problems. The 35 and 19 have BarStol match barrel for IPSC match use.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2008, 02:45:35 AM »
I reload for all of my guns. One at a time. My glock has about 300 or 400 rounds loaded for it.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2008, 03:55:40 PM »
glockman55, How can you compare retreaded tires to reloads?  Those are totally different beasts.  Although I don't think that I have ever had any major problems with bought ammo, I haven't had any problems with tested reloaded ammo either.  I think the reloaded ammo might be viewed differently in different parts of the country.  There might be fewer issues with reloaded ammo here in Wyoming than in some more urban settings.  It doesn't matter what the lawyer makes of anything.  It is what impresses the jury.  And I have witnessed how juries look at guns.  If the guns sitting on the table look like weapons of war, then people look at them differently.  Even I, who loves all types of guns, would have to admit to being influenced by some of the looks of weapons during a trial for a young kid that got in a gun fight with police while driving.

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Re: How many reload for their GLOCKS
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2008, 05:04:43 AM »
    I reload for all my guns and all my rifles  and some of my shotguns
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