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trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« on: April 08, 2007, 04:51:52 AM »
hello;

any "tricks" to increase the accuracy of a marlin 336 (30/30).  already has a good trigger.  thanks for any input.

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 06:37:57 AM »
The best thing I have found with an microgroove barrel is just keeping it clean..Microgrooves are shallow but inherently accurate as is...
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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 07:54:59 AM »
I think matching the load to the gun is as important as anything else you can do.  Keeping it clean helps, but I'm not real meticulous with my Marlins, and my 30-30 is consistently the best shooter I own, quarter-inch groups are the NORM at 50 yards.  Someone gave me a box of 20-year old Remington 150-grain Core-Lokt ammo a year or two ago, and it shot like crazy.  I just bought the same bullet, and started playing with powder charges, and within a week I had stumbled onto the one it liked.  In my case it was 30.2 grains of IMR-4895 with Federal primers in anybody's brass.  I keep the screws tight but not too tight, and I don't let the copper fouling build up.  That's about it!

What kind of results are you getting, that you seek to improve on?

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 08:07:56 AM »
I have had a Marlin 30-30 for over thirty years.  At first it liked 170 grain Federals manufacture back in the 70's, but after taking it out and firing Federal, Winchester, and Remington bullets I found the 150 grain Remington C-L to be the most accurate.  This was the result of setting down at a bench and firing each product.  The Remington produced the best groups.  Last year I bought six new boxes of Federal 150 grain bullets for $6.00 a box.  I could not pass up the deal.  I have not had the opportunity to test this ammunition.  When it comes to reloads I have had success with the Hornaday 150 grain round nose.

I consider the Marlin with the 4x scope a accurate 200 yard rifle.  It has needed no special attention, just cleaning.
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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 05:01:23 AM »
The load I had the best groups with for my dad, with his old Marlin 336 in 30-30 was 29.0 to 30.0 grs of IMR-3031 under a Hornady 170 FP. This gun would consistantly shot 1" groups at 100yrd. My son now has his granddads gun and it still shoots the same load as good as it did 35+ yrs ago.

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 08:45:56 AM »
Try the Hornady Leverolution ammo.  I did that and was amazed at the accuracy I was getting and also depressed that my beloved handloads were beaten in the accuracy department.  Hardly anyone has anything bad to say about those rounds.

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 12:49:36 PM »
An LBT firelapping kit,{can be found on this sight}, will do wonders if yours is a little "picky." Good sights are a wise investment. I like the Williams WGRS peep sight matched with the appropriate fiber optic front sight, also the express sights are great, rugged to.

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 01:22:23 PM »
This guy has some good ideas.

http://www.levergun.com/Marlin/index.html

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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2007, 02:51:00 AM »
This IS alittle extreme...I bought a used ( 1976 production) Model 336 4 years ago and from the start she was a shooter.The stock finish was wrecked but mechanically she showed little use.I started reloading and found that increasing the length of the loaded rounds brought noticeable improvement in accuracy.Eventually , the OAL hit 2.600" , which is the max length that will allow ejection of unfired rounds,but puts the crimp groove above the case neck.Couple that with the fact that one of the most accurate and useful bullets I tried is Hornady's 130gr single shot pistol ( very pointy!)I decided to have the magazine trimmed to hold 1 shot.The mag is attached by a screw into the barrel and the standard carbine barrel band works just fine.As isured , she was a 1 3/4 incher for 3 at 100, with long reloads she was  a 1 1/4 incher and with the mag trimmed she's sub MOA all day and her smallest group to date is 5/16 inch for 3 at 100.Keeping her bore free of excessive amounts of copper is very important and when testing loads using different powders or bullet brands ,clean inbetween! This is often overlooked but extremely important.BTW my loads using Hornady 130's , 150rn's and 170fp's fall on the same verticle line.130's +3 150+ 1 1/2 and the 170's + 1.I dont know how many rounds went through her before I got her , but I've fired 3100 rounds ( exactly) with no loss of accuracy or change in headspace.Marlin makes a superb rifle.200 yard groups are in the 2- 21/2 inch range if the wind isn't too bad.Oh, almost forgot, keep the tang screw tight as a loose one will cause verticle stringing.Best of luck! 
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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2007, 09:19:30 AM »
If you're serious about getting the most out of your Marlin, track down a book by M.L. McPherson titled "Accurizing the Factory Rifle".  It's available on Amazon.com and well worth the $$$$.
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Re: trick to increase accuracy of 336 (30/30)
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 12:45:40 PM »
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