Well I'll tell ya what TM7, I been steaming for a real long time about the fact that our current president not only would not close up those boarders (a long with all of congress) but actually let illegal people off the hook as well. Not happy one bit. Of course all the previous administrations have been lax as well over many years.
As far as Iraq goes, my feelings are we were already blowing things up there in the eighties with special forces inside there borders for targeting and information purposes, in effect, we were at war with them then, regardless if congress signed anything or not...to be continued into the next administration, in which we crushed the republican guard. Then the cease fire happened...not the end, a cease fire according to the corrupt useless nations that is. Now Iraq was supposed to follow some resolutions, which they did not. Then more involvement yet from the next administration.
What I'm trying to say is we were in Iraq long before this administration. So whatever happened has happened, and we are now at a time where there is not an easy way out...either win it the old fashioned way...or wind up throwing the towel in like Vietnam. In which case the fall of Iraq, and about 12,000,000 people that voted will remind me of the fall of Saigon.
In a pickle here....now it's a question of how bad you want to win....bomb then into the stone age, and fight them everywhere, and make them lick their wounds, or continue to try to be careful not to hurt too many people...in which case history shows us we'll lose. The only time wars are won is when everything, I mean everything is under the rubble and we sift through that when it's done. (not popular, but it ends things, at least for a long time)
Of course, the radicals we are fighting have been around a long time, as I remember, even in the 70's they were killing, kidnapping, and high jacking planes, so nothing new there either.
Tough choices now, but things have been in play for a long time before this administration, even though things escalated over a few administrations to a higher level in this one.
The blame could go back a ways, weather we blame someone for not going all the way and nipping it in the bud a long time ago, or not nipping it in the bud now....the longer we wait, the harder it will be down the road to I think. As always, If I'm going to lay blame on anything or anyone....I need to think farther than yesterday and today, and farther than just one man. Those 500 plus people in Congress take take a large amount of the share in everything too.
When do policies become treasonous? The very first policy that would put any American at any kind of risk at all, which means open borders to me.
But there have been a lot of policies in the past that qualify also.
Take care TM7...good subject there...as always you get me to thinkin out loud sometimes.
Jim
