so far i have about three good loads for the 14" 30-30AI. two of those are fireforming loads.
fireform: 37.5gr IMR4350, sierra 125gr sp,rem 9 1/2 primer, win. brass, 2.67 oal. not much in velocity, but makes a great target-practice load to form cases.
fireform: 30.0gr IMR4198, hornady 130gr sp, rem 9 1/2 primer, win. brass, 2.67oal. averages 2355fps
formed ackley improved 30-30 case: **.*gr IMR4198, hornady 130gr sspb, rem 9 1/2 primer, win brass,2.67 oal. averages 2588fps = deer thumper!
for comparison, factory 30-30 winchester 150gr hp's average around 2200fps and form cases to the improved shape just fine.