I went to a locally owned sporting goods shop last week and asked if they had any Handy rifles? The Fellow was early 50s and by his loud voice a little cocky. He asked for fun shooting? I said arnt all Handis fun to shoot. Then ha showed me a Remington 700 in 223 that was way overpriced at $650. By then I knew he had no Idea what I was talking aout. I told him that was a little steep and asked if he had any New England rifles. He said no,just a couple used shotguns.