A Great Alternative to What Is Running.

[rockbilly]

I have been watching this guy, and am impressed.  This may be the answer we are all looking for.  Take a look at his web site, and what he stands for, and I think you will agree.  He is not out there in the lime light, but perhaps if we give him a little boost he could be.  I can't afford to bankroll him, but I do plan to make a small donation which may pay off with big dividends in the end.

RE: Tancredo driving the debate…

May 3, 2007

If you are watching the news today you have probably seen the mass protests by illegal aliens demanding a path to citizenship. Imagine the gall -- they sneak in here, wave their flag and demand benefits! -- Give us healthcare, give us welfare, school our children -- and now -- make us citizens! It says a lot about our elites that we have all these people parading their illegal status in the street and instead of arresting them they are putting them on television.

The good news is that with your help we are going to put an end to all this. We have already started. Click here to help!

This week Senator Brownback withdrew his support from an amnesty bill he has been pushing – too little too late. And last week, the Times carried a front page exposé in its politics section detailing Mayor Giuliani's flip-flop on illegal immigration. Giuliani, the Times explains, has been trying to steer clear of the issue on the campaign trail, but the voters and Tom Tancredo just won't let him. They keep bringing it up:

At the annual Lincoln Day dinner here last Saturday, Representative Tom Tancredo, [Notice they finally stopped calling me "long shot"] Republican of Colorado, received some of the loudest applause from the 1,000 party loyalists in attendance as he railed against illegal immigrants. “We are destroying the concept of citizenship itself,” Mr. Tancredo said. “America, and indeed Western civilization, are in a crisis.” 

I knew Giuliani supported amnesty but even I was shocked at the extent of it. The Times reports that as Mayor, Giuliani, "advocate[ed] for $12 million to start a city agency that would assist those seeking citizenship,” and vigorously defended the city’s sanctuary policy.

Giuliani, Romney, and Brownback are flipping left right and center and the media is finally getting the message. It is all because of your help. And we are not going to quit.

When it comes to immigration Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Brownback are all peas of the same pod. They love to talk about their experience in public service -- they may have the competence to run the country but they certainly don't have the courage to defend it.

It's just you and me, friends. It is our country, together we are going to take it back.

We are very excited, because in a few hours Tom is taking this message to the Republican debate at the Reagan Library. You can watch the debate Thursday night, May 3rd at 8PM Eastern time on MSNBC.

So thanks again for your support, and stay tuned, the headlines are rolling in, the march is on.

Thanks for all you do. God bless you.

Bay Buchanan

P.S. The Congressman is driving the debate; the media is getting the message. My job is to keep that momentum going. I must ask for your help.

Can you please make a contribution today? Our staff is lean and our hours are long but we still need your support. We only have three months until the Iowa straw poll so anything you can do today would be much appreciated.

Please contribute today

[nomosendero]

Mr. Tancredo has been my pick, even before he announced, I am glad he is running.

I just read the record for Mr. Paul. He is great with this topic, rated A by the NRA, & mixed in Social issues. Mr Tancredo beats him out in my view, & unless I missed something, so does Duncan Hunter. I would vote for any of these three, I like Fred Thompson alot, but sadly he is weak concerning immigration.

[muskeg13]

Sen Fred D. Thompson is weak on immigration? 
Thompson favors sealing the border before we try to do anything else about illegal immigration. He told Mike Wallace on Fox News Sunday:

"I'm concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary. I think most people feel disillusioned after 1986 when they had this deal offered to them before.  Now we're insisting that we solve the security problem first, and then we'll talk about what to do with regard to other things — certainly no amnesty or anything blanket like that.  If we can make it nearly impossible for an invader to get a job and give the border patrol the authority and resources to arrest illegals and send them back where they came from, more than half the battle will have been won."

Thompson understands that if legal penalties are too high for employers to hire invaders and if government doesn't give them free health care and a host of other undeserved benefits, there will be next to nothing left to attract them or keep them here. Again, FDT to Wallace:

"You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you're not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they're here, they'll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to load up moving vans and rounding people up."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258222,00.html

From "Southern Exposure", by Fred D. Thompson, ABC Radio Commentaries, April 13, 2007:

"We know that the overwhelming majority of illegals come across the Mexican border. Fortunately, we've got someone who is all too willing to tell us what we should do about it -- the president of Mexico Philipe Calderon.

President Calderon doesn't think much of our border policies. He criticizes our efforts to secure the border with things such as border fencing. He says that bottlenecks at U.S. checkpoints hurt Mexican commerce and force his citizens to migrate illegally in order to make a living (and of course send money back to Mexico). He apparently thinks we should do nothing except make American citizens out of his constituents. Calderon also accused U.S. officials of failing to do enough to stop the flow of drugs in to the United States. Mexican politicians gave President Bush an earful of all of this during his recent trip to Mexico.

I think its time for a little plain talk to the leaders of Mexico. Something like: Hey guys, you're our friends and neighbors and we love you but it's time you had a little dose of reality. A sovereign nation loses that status if it cannot secure its own borders and we are going to do whatever is necessary to do so." 

http://www.abcradio.com/article.asp?id=386577&SPID=15663

If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?

[magooch]

If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?

Well all righty, now you're talking.  Throw in a bounty and I'm there.

[tomzuki]

We have had three amnesties here in the "Republic Of California" in my lifetime.  All were very "successful".  Millions of Illegal, undocumented people were allowed to stay and suck-up generous public assistance without the threat of deportation.  Millions of forged documents for easy, UNDER THE TABLE, non taxed income.  (many would not pay income tax anyway at the minimum wage level) 

Worse yet, employers who can easily take advantage of these unskilled, un-educated, non-english speaking laborers.  Sure, our leaders on both sides of the aisle are ADDICTED to cheap, almost slave, labor and its net effect on the economic indicators for this country.

Prior to thirty years ago, migratory laborers were allowed to cross back into Mexico and return un-harassed during the "Season".  Now with a possible threat to closing the border, and increased enforcement during the past twenty-five years or so, the undocumented no longer risk returning to Mexico.

Nuf said.  Just as we do not want to tip off our enemy in Iraq about when we might withdraw our forces, We must Secure/Seal all US borders north and south immediately.  If we have need for unskilled laborers we should act as other countries do and import labor on restricted visas.

Try to enter any other country in the world....You are asked at the airport or point of entry what your business is?? How long will you be staying, and my direct experience includes proving with your return air travel ticket, when you will be leaving.

There is no doubt in my mind that these laborers are needed by the US economy.  We just need to check criminal histories, medical screening, (T.B. is at an all time high in some of the areas concentrated with people coming from extremely poor living conditions) and document their incomes for possible tax inclusions.

[nomosendero]

Sen Fred D. Thompson is weak on immigration? 
Thompson favors sealing the border before we try to do anything else about illegal immigration. He told Mike Wallace on Fox News Sunday:

"I'm concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary. I think most people feel disillusioned after 1986 when they had this deal offered to them before.  Now we're insisting that we solve the security problem first, and then we'll talk about what to do with regard to other things — certainly no amnesty or anything blanket like that.  If we can make it nearly impossible for an invader to get a job and give the border patrol the authority and resources to arrest illegals and send them back where they came from, more than half the battle will have been won."

Thompson understands that if legal penalties are too high for employers to hire invaders and if government doesn't give them free health care and a host of other undeserved benefits, there will be next to nothing left to attract them or keep them here. Again, FDT to Wallace:

"You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you're not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they're here, they'll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to load up moving vans and rounding people up."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258222,00.html

From "Southern Exposure", by Fred D. Thompson, ABC Radio Commentaries, April 13, 2007:

"We know that the overwhelming majority of illegals come across the Mexican border. Fortunately, we've got someone who is all too willing to tell us what we should do about it -- the president of Mexico Philipe Calderon.

President Calderon doesn't think much of our border policies. He criticizes our efforts to secure the border with things such as border fencing. He says that bottlenecks at U.S. checkpoints hurt Mexican commerce and force his citizens to migrate illegally in order to make a living (and of course send money back to Mexico). He apparently thinks we should do nothing except make American citizens out of his constituents. Calderon also accused U.S. officials of failing to do enough to stop the flow of drugs in to the United States. Mexican politicians gave President Bush an earful of all of this during his recent trip to Mexico.

I think its time for a little plain talk to the leaders of Mexico. Something like: Hey guys, you're our friends and neighbors and we love you but it's time you had a little dose of reality. A sovereign nation loses that status if it cannot secure its own borders and we are going to do whatever is necessary to do so." 

http://www.abcradio.com/article.asp?id=386577&SPID=15663

If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?

"If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?"
Sir
No, rather I go by what he has done & not by what he has said recently, when he decided that he might run. I was born at nite, but not last nite. I have learned a long time ago to know what a politician does, how he votes rather than what he says to get votes. If he has a change of heart now & is sincere, fine, I like him & would like to support him if I knew that for sure, but I don't.

Muskeg13, I researched what he has DONE, let's take a look.

1.  He voted yes on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
2. He voted yes on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
3. He voted yes to limit Welfare for Immigrants. (Jul 1997) Notice this was to limit welfare, not do away with Welfare for Illegals, why allow any?

I cannot find any strong statements he made about Illegals while he served in Congress. If he did, please someone quote it, because I like the man!!!

He is rated as a Moderate overall. These things are found here:  http://grid.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm   

Actions speak louder than words, especially recent words by a politician.

[nomosendero]

Sen Fred D. Thompson is weak on immigration? 
Thompson favors sealing the border before we try to do anything else about illegal immigration. He told Mike Wallace on Fox News Sunday:

"I'm concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary. I think most people feel disillusioned after 1986 when they had this deal offered to them before.  Now we're insisting that we solve the security problem first, and then we'll talk about what to do with regard to other things — certainly no amnesty or anything blanket like that.  If we can make it nearly impossible for an invader to get a job and give the border patrol the authority and resources to arrest illegals and send them back where they came from, more than half the battle will have been won."

Thompson understands that if legal penalties are too high for employers to hire invaders and if government doesn't give them free health care and a host of other undeserved benefits, there will be next to nothing left to attract them or keep them here. Again, FDT to Wallace:

"You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you're not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they're here, they'll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to load up moving vans and rounding people up."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258222,00.html

From "Southern Exposure", by Fred D. Thompson, ABC Radio Commentaries, April 13, 2007:

"We know that the overwhelming majority of illegals come across the Mexican border. Fortunately, we've got someone who is all too willing to tell us what we should do about it -- the president of Mexico Philipe Calderon.

President Calderon doesn't think much of our border policies. He criticizes our efforts to secure the border with things such as border fencing. He says that bottlenecks at U.S. checkpoints hurt Mexican commerce and force his citizens to migrate illegally in order to make a living (and of course send money back to Mexico). He apparently thinks we should do nothing except make American citizens out of his constituents. Calderon also accused U.S. officials of failing to do enough to stop the flow of drugs in to the United States. Mexican politicians gave President Bush an earful of all of this during his recent trip to Mexico.

I think its time for a little plain talk to the leaders of Mexico. Something like: Hey guys, you're our friends and neighbors and we love you but it's time you had a little dose of reality. A sovereign nation loses that status if it cannot secure its own borders and we are going to do whatever is necessary to do so." 

http://www.abcradio.com/article.asp?id=386577&SPID=15663

If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?

"If you think Thompson is weak on immigration, what do you propose, shooting illegals on sight?"
Sir
No, rather I go by what he has done & not by what he has said recently, when he decided that he might run. I was born at nite, but not last nite. I have learned a long time ago to know what a politician does, how he votes rather than what he says to get votes. If he has a change of heart now & is sincere, fine, I like him & would like to support him if I knew that for sure, but I don't.

Muskeg13, I researched what he has DONE, let's take a look.

1.  He voted yes on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
2. He voted yes on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
3. He voted yes to limit Welfare for Immigrants. (Jul 1997) Notice this was to limit welfare, not do away with Welfare for Illegals, why allow any?

I cannot find any strong statements he made about Illegals while he served in Congress. If he did, please someone quote it, because I like the man!!!

He is rated as a Moderate overall. These things are found here:  http://grid.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm   

Actions speak louder than words, especially recent words by a politician.

" If he did, please someone quote it, because I like the man"    Well, how bout it? Like I said, I am looking
for it, but have not seen it just yet.

[Savage .250]

  Illegal immigration!