Barrel Cleaning????

[nofun1]

I have used a routine for quite some time I run 2 wet patches (shooters choice), 10 strokes with wetted brush, 3-4 dry patches and than Wipeout and let sit overnight. I am getting ready for a big P-dog shoot and was cleaning my guns after checking zero. I followed my usual procedure. Than for some reason I tried to repeat after running the brush through the second time patches were filthy. So I kept doing it and after 4 times they still come out black after brushing with a bronze brush. this was after 10 shots I clean every gun every single time I shoot. can anyone explain this? I have a hard time believing I have been doing such a lousy job cleaning. Accuracy is not affected. 

[Questor]

NoFun1:

We really need to know what cartridge and bullet type you're shooting, and about what velocity you expect the bullets to be shot at.

My own daily barrel cleaning ritual when prairie dog shooting is much more involved and is effective at removing all fouling. The procedure takes about an hour to an hour and a half, but it leaves the bore absolutely clean. With the .223 I have had no need to clean during the day while shooting. Here's the drill:
1) Clean bore with solvent soaked brushes. Also swab chamber and throat. This removes loose crud.
2) Dry patches to dry bore and chamber.
3) Sweets 7.62 applied with wet patches and allowed to sit and work for about 10 minutes. Repeat twice. Swabbing bore with bronze brush between patches.
4) Dry patches to dry bore and chamber.
5) JB Bore Paste with several patches, 5 to 10.
6) Solvent soaked patches to remove paste
7) Dry patches
Oily patch to oil bore and chamber
9) Dry patches to dry bore and chamber.
10) Wipe bolt and gun with oily cloth, clean the scope lenses, and case the gun.

I use this routine when I am shooting a lot, or at the end of a season when I am putting the gun away until next season.  A simpler procedure is used for non-jacketed bullets.

[Glanceblamm]

The very first thing to pop into my mind was for you to throw away that brush and get a new one but that is kind of elementary...My cleaning procedure is pretty much like yours except I will run a few wet patches after the brush work, or alternate wet/dry till the fouling is gone.

Another thing that comes to mind is that your solvent has been contaminated...This is done by the repeated dipping of the brush or patched jag into the bottle while attached to the cleaning rod. You can use an eye-dropper or better yet a small metal tray to wet the patches.

On a really stubborn case Hoppe's blackpowder solvent will scavange the powder fouling of smokeless powder like you wouldn't believe (inside & out) because it is a pure detergent.
This usually isnt nessary but can work well.

While any of the above might not be the cause of your problem, you definatley have something going on...I would run wet patches initially (till clean) then do the wet brush work followed by more wet patches till clean and see if it doesnt make a difference.