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Offline sureshot2040

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groups?
« on: May 15, 2007, 04:11:44 PM »
hey pards
im abt to order my first ar
a stag with a 20 inch heavy barrel
flat top with an arms 40 rear
i plan to put a 6x24 scope on it
just curious as to what kind of groups i can expect from this kind of setup?
what kind of groups do you guys get from your ar?
thanks
sureshot

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Re: groups?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 01:37:34 AM »
I have a RRA 20" Predator Pursuit. Factory guarantees .75 MOA. I believe them because I can shoot 1 MOA consistently and typically four shots make 2 large holes w/ the fifth being a bit wider. These are handloads w/ no particular attempt at super accuracy. Without the fifth shot, my groups are also ~.75 MOA. An excellent rifle.

You should be able to get 1 MOA.

hey pards
im abt to order my first ar
a stag with a 20 inch heavy barrel
flat top with an arms 40 rear
i plan to put a 6x24 scope on it
just curious as to what kind of groups i can expect from this kind of setup?
what kind of groups do you guys get from your ar?
thanks
sureshot

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Re: groups?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 07:35:02 AM »
I have a Bushmaster Shorty with a 4X BDC scope that will shoot 1" groups from an improvised rest at 100yds. This is with the collapsable stock fully extended. (still to short) I  use Silver Bear ammo, as I have a good stash of it. Haven't tried any reloaded or high quality ammo in it. With a better trigger I think I could improve on that a little. The factory trigger on this Bushy is heavy!!!
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Re: groups?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 10:36:03 PM »
I would think with the heavy barrel you can expect sub-MOA groups, but you will still have to match the ammo to the gun, just a good excuse to shoot it a lot!  I had a similar set up in an Olympia Arms gun, it was good for MOA, but no better.  The latest AR I have is an Oly Match lower (GREAT trigger!) with a Del-Ton flattop upper, and this little bugger can SHOOT.  The biggest limiting factor is me and my over-50 eyes, but I still managed to get three shots into .27" at 200 yards last week.  If wish I could do that all the time, but it was a fluke, the average at 200 yards is about 1.25".  Careful handloading helps.

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