Author Topic: Best all around rifle caliber (Read 16503 times)

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #120 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:47:45 AM »

swampman a 30/30 with 6- 9 rounds aval. is a great rifle for someone who can't shoot with all the extra ammo on hand !
and a bi-pod is like a sling something to help get the job done !

NONYA · « **Reply #121 on:** January 25, 2008, 03:03:47 AM »

Damn Swampy even Shoot can punch holes in your trolling boat,looks like you need a new pastime.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #122 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:16:57 AM »

was that sniping ?

NONYA · « **Reply #123 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:21:09 AM »

Definitely!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #124 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:39:26 AM »

not bad for a yahoo !

NONYA · « **Reply #125 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:42:45 AM »

Some day you too could be a Buk-A-Roo!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #126 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:05:41 AM »

some day i hope to get out west and hunt !

NONYA · « **Reply #127 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:07:53 AM »

If you do leave your 30-30 at home and ill let you borrow one of my sissy mags.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #128 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:10:44 AM »

will my 300 win mag work ?

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #129 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:21:41 AM »

Your 300 mag will work fine unless you are hunting elk, in that case your cartridge will need the words "Nitro Express" in its name.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #130 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:27:09 AM »

I'm a life member in RMEF and alot of the folks i talk with at meetings use the 300WM on elk .

NONYA · « **Reply #131 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:34:18 AM »

300 wm is a great elk round.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #132 on:** January 25, 2008, 06:40:52 AM »

Is the .35 Whelen loaded with Barnes Tripleshock 225 gr bullets to max velocity a good round. I've heard it was.

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #133 on:** January 25, 2008, 06:53:35 AM »

I was kidding, just kinda wanted to make a point. While I agree with most here that a 30-30 is a poor choice for almost all western big game hunting, I also believe that magnums aren't necessary for most hunting.

NONYA · « **Reply #134 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:07:56 AM »

not necessary but not a negative in any hunting situation out here,better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it,words to live by.

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #135 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:22:56 AM »

I see where you are coming from Nonya, and basically agree. However if someone is going out on their first western hunt there is no reason to go out and buy a magnum to replace a perfectly good 30-06, 270, or 308 that they already have. Also shooters need to be honest with themselves about recoil, some folks get a pretty bad flinch after they buy some 7lb "mountain rifle" chambered for some super duper magnum cartridge they bought to hunt out west with.

dukkillr · « **Reply #136 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:46:10 AM »

Best all around western caliber? 300 WM or 300 WSM.

Best balance of availability, range, and recoil.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #137 on:** January 25, 2008, 08:01:20 AM »

can't believe someone hasn't said the 30-30 with lever-ever-loution ammo is equal to a 30 mag. yet ! snick !

NONYA · « **Reply #138 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:20:16 AM »

Quote from: SDS-GEN on January 25, 2008, 07:22:56 AM

I see where you are coming from Nonya, and basically agree. However if someone is going out on their first western hunt there is no reason to go out and buy a magnum to replace a perfectly good 30-06, 270, or 308 that they already have. Also shooters need to be honest with themselves about recoil, some folks get a pretty bad flinch after they buy some 7lb "mountain rifle" chambered for some super duper magnum cartridge they bought to hunt out west with.

Absolutely,Killed everything around here several times over with my trusty old -06,wouldn't hesitate to use it again.The 30-30 on the other hand is substandard for the kind of hunting we do,we hunt and shoot from ridge to ridge,across canyons and huge draws,we stalk game that lives on the open prairie and can see you coming miles away,the magnums just give you a lil more reach and make that 400 yard shot very doable,something I wouldn't say about the 30-30 at 300,it just doesn't carry the energy and ballistics you need to kill tough game at the ranges we often have to shoot.My Grandfather who has killed more game than all of us combined tells a story about how happy him and his brother were to ditch their 30-30 when the -06 became available to them,they were given one by the local sheriff after his father died and bringing in game back then was absolutely necessary,they were finally able to shoot elk across the very same canyon i have shot across many times.It opened up a whole new option,you cant even see the elk on that ridge through the thick timber till you are right on top of them,from across the canyon you can wait till they are visible in a opening in the branches and make a 400 yard shot.nothing has changed since then except the internet experts that know it all and have done none of it.He ended up being one of the top competitive shooters on the army team with that very same round,he tells many stories of camp perry and how the -06 is very effective at 1000 yards on humans,he was a sniper attached to the corp of engineers in Nam and has a shoe box full of enemy dead kill photos to show for it.Those days of hunger and lack of ammo required him to be a very good shot,my father tells stories of him dropping elk at or nearly 1000 yards with his M1,Id love to have seen it!

700xcr · « **Reply #139 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:14:22 PM »

I live in Eastern Washington and have taken mule deer with a 243win. 7mm mag. and a 270wsm. Elk has been with the 7mm mag. several years ago. My newest is the 270wsm. I am really happy with the results of this cartridge. I wouldn't even be afraid to use it for elk.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #140 on:** January 25, 2008, 06:30:07 PM »

The 7mm Remington Magnum is one of the small magnums, and is by no means extreme in any way, except flat trajectory, and that is not a sin.

Cheese

NONYA · « **Reply #141 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:57:16 AM »

My heavy 7rm equipped with a limbsaver recoil pad and a bipod is like shooting a 308,i can shoot it all day without getting sore,my 8mag on the other hand,its a lightweight rig for humpin the elk hills and it packs a wholup!

rex6666 · « **Reply #142 on:** February 07, 2008, 10:41:29 AM »

No one has metioned the 22lr hp, awsome round. I have killed some trophy Jack rabbits
with this round and the Marlin 39A holds enough ammo that you don't even need to carry extra. This round also works well on sqrirrels, but a head shot is a must, not to ruin meat.
I have also killed magnum coyotes with it, but have to get close, i usually sneak up on them while they are sleeping and stick the barrel in their hear, then holler HI-DE-HO and pull the
trigger at the same time. his round will take Bobcat also, but is too graphic to mention here
has to do with butter and a hot knife.

Thank you
Rex

corbanzo · « **Reply #143 on:** February 13, 2008, 01:54:07 PM »

Or for those jacks you could use the 55grn 30-06 accelerators, the group about 7" at 200 yards, but who's counting??

rex6666 · « **Reply #144 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:19:35 AM »

I hear you with the 7" group, you just need one, if you only knew where in the group
it was.
It really bothers me that NONYA had nothing to say about the 22LR
Maybe his puter is broke.

NONYA · « **Reply #145 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:57:10 AM »

You dont even want to hear my 22lr stories,there were many years when that was the only rifle I was allowed to leave the house with(8-12).

corbanzo · « **Reply #146 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:15:22 AM »

Then at 12-15 he was only allowed the -06, and at 16 he got the 7mm and never touched another rifle. And at age last year he found the TSX and will never use another rifle or bullet.

I hear you though. Growing up, the only rifle I owned was a .22. I wasn't allowed another gun (I could used others... but on a restricted basis, could carry the .44 all I wanted for bears) pretty much that whole time... so spent a looot of time with the .22.

When we were bored, we found a bunch of blast caps for nail guns, and would try and shoot them to make them go off. Were never sure if we made them go off or just mangled them... hahaha

But hell if this discussion was about the most shot caliber, the .22 would be up there at the very top.

NONYA · « **Reply #147 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:29:58 AM »

Actually I found the TSX about 5 years ago when they came out but I was a diehard Nosler fan(not to mention I couldnt afford them but my father could and he lent me a few) and tried to be loyal to my brand,tried very hard.I buy a new rifle at least once a year,and the 1962 -06 gets shot every year(Infact I just put a new scope on it).Im picking up my VTR 308 on Sat and plan on using it on several hunts this season so your theory is full of holes Corbanzo.I have an OLD ruger 10/22 that must have 2 million rounds fired through it,it was my grandpas,then my dads and then mine,it loooks like hell but it still shoots great.If there is one caliber in the world with the most rounds fireed its either the 7.62x39 or the 22 lr,probably the 7.62.

rex6666 · « **Reply #148 on:** February 16, 2008, 04:08:39 AM »

I have my dads marlim 39a that he bought in 1957 (iwas 10) between the 2 of us i am surprised it will still shoot, but it works as well as ever. I it has never been disassembled
we did run a rag through the barrel occasionally, wash it out with gasoline, squirt some 3 in 1 oil in the works, loaded it up and it has killed i don't know how many JR. and lots of coyotes,
that is how i learn balance, standing in the back of a pickup running across a hay meadow 30-35 mph tring to hit a coyote.

colocowboy76 · « **Reply #149 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:18:00 PM »

I think the myth of the "one rifle for everything" is just that a myth. Every caliber has some trade off ie., recoil, energy, range, expense. If a guy has the money to hunt many different species of game all over NA he sure has enough money to buy more that one gun.

I doubt that anyone on this board only has one gun.........