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Offline Bob96

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G2 Trigger ?
« on: June 02, 2007, 02:22:26 AM »
 On my old style Condender there are two small screws in the trigger guard area. One could be adjusted, for sear contact I think, until the gun would not stay cocked when closing then backed off 1/2 turn for lightest pull. The other for overtravel could be screwed in until gun would not fire then backed off 1/2 turn for smallest overtravel.  Does the G2 also use these adjustment screws? I have read posts where the G2 trigger is not as good as the old style. Did they change the design in the new models?

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 03:35:58 AM »
Nope...That's one of the reasons all of my frames are the older style...BCB

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Re: G2 Trigger ?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 05:12:59 AM »
Bob,

There are excellent aftermarket springs that can turn your G2 trigger into a very sweet release.  I recommend that you google "custom g2 trigger spring" and visit the first site that pops up.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 07:25:09 AM »
I have three G2s and one original.  The G2s are just as good as the original.  Now that you can get rubber grips I am likely to sell my original and make it 4 G2s.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 12:19:37 PM »
One very nice feature of the original (easy open) contenders is that the easy open trigger can be adjusted by replacing the trigger return spring with, say a tire valve spring.  Mine breaks perfectly at 14 oz, like a glass rod.
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Re: G2 Trigger ?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2007, 06:22:18 AM »
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The G2s are just as good as the original

Not mine! lots of creep.

I had to do a trigger job. I used the instructions for the Encore.

Now mine is crisp, but not light, maybe three pounds. I don't want to go lighter because my G2 is my walkabout/hunting pistol.

I met a guy yesterday that shot himself in the leg with a Contender while deer hunting. The hammer was down, and something touched the trigger, then his coat pulled the hammer back slightly and released it.

For me the Contender is strictly a competition pistol. I can't even feel the Contender trigger when it gets cold out.

My Encore came with a great trigger, crisp and about two pounds.

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Re: G2 Trigger ?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 07:12:11 AM »
  So the G2 has no adjustments for trigger pull or overtravel?

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2007, 12:59:56 PM »
All three of mine have overtravel stop screws.  Pull, like many other guns, is a function of the springs and how the sear is stoned.  It is no big trick to give one a trigger job.  I haven't had to on any of mine.  The trigger "problem" is way overblown.  Some of the early guns had it.  Most of the later ones don't.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2007, 11:00:25 AM »
My Encore frame was one of the earlier ones, and had a 5.5 lb pull.  Too much for my liking.  New spring did the trick, and action rebound is perfect and consistent!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2007, 12:27:59 PM »
I still prefer the adjustable triggers on the older Contenders…Period.  The last one I purchased had a sixteen-inch .223 Remington barrel attached.  I really didn’t want the barrel as I have a Super 14” barrel that shoots sub-M.O.A. out to 200+ yards.  But, the guy wouldn’t part with just the receiver.  So, I tried a few loads in the 16” barrel—the same loads as the 14” barrel—and it shot as good if not better than the 14” tube.  So just for testing purposes, I tried some 40 grain V-Max bullets.  Amazing!!!  I am getting average velocity of 3299 and one-inch groups most of the day at 200 YARDS.  Seeing major potential with this barrel when I had the trigger adjusted to about 1.75 pounds, I thought that maybe a ‘smith could help with the trigger a bit.  Well, it now breaks at about 14-16 ounces and the 1” groups at 200 yards are doable—1/2” of less at 100 yards most of the time from a good bench rest.

Now what does this have to do with old Contenders or new Contenders/Encores?  Well, I can have the trigger at 14 ounces for very controlled shooting conditions—at the bench or hunting groundhogs with the 223 barrel.  I can increase the trigger pull to a few pounds for using the 7-30 Waters barrel in the winter during deer season—not such a controlled environment.  Since I have several frames, I really don’t need to switch barrels from extremely light-pull trigger adjustments—I can keep a frame set at 3+ pounds for actual winter hunting conditions.

BUT, if I had ONE frame, it would be the adjustable style trigger and I would have it worked by a competent ‘smith also.  Try adjusting your new Contenders and Encores from light to heavy trigger pull for different hunting conditions…BCB


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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 12:30:39 PM »
I keep my triggers at the same 2-3 pounds for everything.  I don't see the need for a 14 oz trigger.  If you do then you have what you want.  It is something I don't need, so I don't have to limit my fun to one style of gun.
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Re: G2 Trigger ?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2007, 06:43:50 AM »
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[So the G2 has no adjustments for trigger pull or overtravel?/quote]


No, they're just like the Encore triggers, not adjustable without changing springs. No stops or other adjustments.



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Re: G2 Trigger ?
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 12:16:47 PM »
My opinion continues to remain that the adjustable triggers are superior as far as applications go.  Why T/C discontinued the adjustable trigger is probably a guess.  Some might say because of legal situations that might develop—I say it is cheaper to make them not adjustable.  After all, that is two less screws, etc.

Some of my shooting buddies purchased the G2’s and the Encores.  ALL of them had the trigger worked by a competent ‘smith, of which 2 of them, including myself (for my old-style Contender), sent them to the “censored” person for the work—top of the line.  Those reworked G2’s are now very reasonable—they were terrible to begin with.  BUT, they are light triggers, and wearing gloves in the winter can be tricky—Hunting groundhogs from sandbags in the summer is very acceptable.

Two or 3 pound trigger pull is acceptable for hunting, but trying to shoot exception groups, or determine the most accurate reload, is dreadful with this type of trigger pull.  It seems to take ‘bout ½ hour for the trigger to “break” at 3 pounds—that’s a lot of movement of the crosshairs on a target at 200 yards!!!

Yep, I will always go for the older style Contender frames.  After all, many things that are adjustable are very accepted by today’s standards…Car steering wheels and seats, variable ‘scopes, mower deck heights, heat controls on gas grills, seating depth on seating dies, powder measures, water delivery from a garden sprinkler, throttle control on my Harley, volume on my radios and televisions, thermostats for my Lee lead melting pot and for my central air conditioner, light and darkness for my HP printer, my clocks for DST, metal detectors for sensitivity to certain metals, and on and on and on…I’ll still take the old-style frame with the adjustable trigger every time.  And I am beginning to see a few less of them as I visit local gun stores.  And the ones that are there are nearly as much as the new frames—go figure.  And so it goes…BCB