Savage Mark II non-Accutrigger need help

[bluebayou]

Wow, what a crappy trigger.  Easily the worst trigger I have used.  The SKS has a smoother feel.  The SKS is heavy and has a lot of travel, but this Savage is gritty and unpredictable.

Is this trigger group like the Stevens 200 with only surface hardening on a sintered piece?  Can it be polished or improved in anyway?

I saw on another website about cutting 1/4 coil off of the spring at a time.  The weight of the pull isn't the problem, it is the gritty feel and consistency.  The trigger group was cleaned with Gunscrubber and then I squirted lighter fluid in it a couple of times for a little lube.

[victorcharlie]

The savage trigger is easily improved.  Just google Savage trigger.

http://yarchive.net/gun/rifle/savage_trigger.html

Lots of other information on the net.....

[papajohn428]

I found the fix for this on Rimfire Central, there's a sticky on fixing the Savage trigger, and it WORKS.  After reading about it at work I went home and was done in an hour, shimming the trigger group dropped the pull weight from 8 pounds to around 2, and I took all the backlash out of it as well.  I originally went to their forum to see if the stock trigger could be swapped for an Accutrigger, but now there is no need!

Papajohn

[bluebayou]

Victorcharlie,
That is for the non-Accutrigger 110 series.  The rimfire that I have doesn't have the piano wire type spring and isn't anything like the Stevens/old Savage 110.  Thanks, for googling for me though.

I am looking at the RFC mod with the shim.  I don't understand how that shim works to lighten the pull unless it just increases the gap/decreases the friction between the sear and trigger.  I will take the rifle out and study it. 

Thanks for the RFC link, papaj

[Keith L]

It decreases the contact surface of sear parts.  I looked at that and decided to spend the money for an aftermarket trigger.  I used my savage in the field, not just at the range and didn't want to risk an accidental discharge.  I don't know if there is a Rifle Basix trigger available for your gun, but if there is I am sure that you will like it.

[bluebayou]

That's what I am seeing.  Some of the people on the other forum say things like "it discharged 1 out 5 times that I droptested it".  I will be with my 5 year old and I need a safety that works.  I will look at it, it appears reversible.  It seems that most are just arbitrarily putting a .025 shim in there.  But I am skeptical.  Papajohn, I will take a look at, thanks again.

[gunnut69]

Adjusting a trigger is one of the most dangerous tasks a gunsmith faces. Any dangerous situation created will likely result in a lawsuit in the future! Even worse adjusting your own trigger is not really a DIY project for any but the most advanced amateurs. At least when triggers that require stoning are in the discussion. I would urge extreme caution or a trip to a decent smith..

[victorcharlie]

Victorcharlie,
That is for the non-Accutrigger 110 series.  The rimfire that I have doesn't have the piano wire type spring and isn't anything like the Stevens/old Savage 110.  Thanks, for googling for me though.

I am looking at the RFC mod with the shim.  I don't understand how that shim works to lighten the pull unless it just increases the gap/decreases the friction between the sear and trigger.  I will take the rifle out and study it. 

Thanks for the RFC link, papaj

I'm sorry, I guess I need to pay attention!

I have also worked the trigger on my 93R17 which should be similar to your rifle.

I added a .025 shim under both screws holding the trigger group on the receiver and cut about a coil off the spring.  The shims pull the sear out farther and makes it break without all the creep.  I'm pretty sure it's case hardened so stone the sear lightly to square up the engagement.  You can get a really decent trigger with a little work.

You can get brass shim stock of many different sizes at your local ACE hardware.

[papajohn428]

When I shimmed my Mark II, I had read every post on the thread, close to 300 of them, and I knew what to watch out for.  I tried three different sets of shims before I had what I wanted, a better trigger and a 100% safe rifle.  For the investment of a little of my time, I got an improved trigger pull, removed the backlash, and gave up nothing.  If money were no object I'd probably just get a Rifle Basix Trigger, but this way I have a good safe gun, and enough money for a nice laminated stock!

Papajohn