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Payed the piper last night
« on: June 12, 2007, 08:44:58 AM »
Finally got on a big boar and lost one of my best all round dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning. I just wished I could have gotten some pups out of him first. The dog was one hundreds of hogs and was 12 when he went. RIP PATCH: Here is he caught on a good hog a few years back. He is the one with the yellow collar and grey eye patch.





Here are pics of the hog that got him. We figgure the hog was around 250 and had good tusks on him.



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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 09:27:30 AM »
Sorry to hear about the dog. Good hog...

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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 09:35:34 AM »
Thanks for the comment. I have had and been hunting that dog since he was a pup. He had been on several hundred hogs and beat up and cut worse then last night, but I guess the beating, old age, and shock got him. As well as all the injuries from past years.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 10:00:03 AM »
Not to be hard hearted even tho I've never understood the affection folks hold for dogs or cats for that matter but...if you had the dog 12 years you must not have wanted pups from him very badly if you didn't get any in all that time.


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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 10:22:17 AM »
Not to be hard hearted even tho I've never understood the affection folks hold for dogs or cats for that matter but...if you had the dog 12 years you must not have wanted pups from him very badly if you didn't get any in all that time.

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  I am very selective on what dogs I breed so as to try and not breed trash, and keep my odds of getting honest, hard working dogs higher. During all these years I only had two females I would have bred him to. As I felt they would compliment his traits. One was shot and killed on me one night while hunting before I could breed them, and the other I just found and got permission to breed him to. But he was killed on me before she came in heat.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 02:42:05 AM »
Shane, I certainly feel for you.  You will have alot of good memories no doubt to recall around alot of future camp fires.   Let me ask you this though, not to criticize, but to learn.  Isn't 12 rather old for a dog to stilll be working that hard?  Not to multiply the "in dog years" thing, but 12 sounds like a dog that might should be entering retirement.  You know his desire will still be there, but the quickness and stamina might not be. Since you said his injuries weren't as bad as some he had received prior to his demise, could it have been something else that caused his death?   Again, not to criticize, just wondering, at what age is a dog  pulled from the active hunting and allowed to be a stud and or lap dog, since it is not like an old pointer that sniffs out birds and points at them, but a pretty vicious fight when a pig is caught?
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2007, 06:40:02 AM »
Mark,

    I will admit for most folks the dog did hit retirement years already, and for others not just yet. I felt I should have retired him a couple years ago, but could not stand to see him left at home. As well as the fact that I rather have had him go out on a hog doing what he loved to do, then sittin at home in the kennel watching his partners go hunting and suffering that way. I had a dog do that already this year, and to me that was more painful for me to watch and get over then looseing patch this way.

Let me put it this way. If the doctor told you you have cancer and if you continue to hunt and fish he will give you a years time to live. If you quit he would extend that time to a year and 3 months, but no more. Which would you rather do. Quit doing something you love to live 3 mths longer? Or keep doing it and die happy?? SOrry but this is the best way I could think of to give an example.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2007, 09:16:23 AM »
Sorry you lost your dog but isnt this to be expected when you turn your dogs on hogs,bears or lions?I know a houndsman here who looses them on a regular basis,he runs cats for fun and doesnt seem to attached to his dogs.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2007, 09:25:56 AM »
SJK sorry about your dog ,  hardest thing is in a mans life he is lucky to have one great dog !
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2007, 12:50:33 PM »
Nonya yes it is to be expected and in all honesty most dogs do not make it to their 3rd year as a hog dog. It is easier to loose a dog early and not be attached to them, as it is I was not too upset to loose this one as I knew his time was coming. However it is still always hard to loose one when you have had them as long as I had this one, and all the sweat, and blood we shared together gives you some type of bond over the years. The reason I posted about him was due to alot of my friends have fond memories of the dog as well and figured I would let them know about his loss. I then copied an pasted the story here.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2007, 12:53:45 PM »
SJK sorry about your dog ,  hardest thing is in a mans life he is lucky to have one great dog !


Shootall you said something there that means alot to alot of hunters. We all feel blessed to have and own at least one dog everybody knows and remembers when we loose that dog. I feel further blessed to have owned several dogs folks around here still speak fondly of since their death and this dog is one of them.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2007, 04:07:11 AM »
Let me put it this way. If the doctor told you you have cancer and if you continue to hunt and fish he will give you a years time to live. If you quit he would extend that time to a year and 3 months, but no more. Which would you rather do. Quit doing something you love to live 3 mths longer? Or keep doing it and die happy?? SOrry but this is the best way I could think of to give an example.
Shane, again, I'm not being critical of your decision to continue to hunt the older dog.  But to answer your question, I don't think the analogy works well.  Your dog didn't have a terminal illness, he was just old.  If I go hunting and fishing, I don't wrestle the deer into the freezer, so even if I was terminally ill I could do what my condition alllowed me the strength to do.  I certainly wouldn't continue to compete in MMA event's at age 65 or 70 though, but I might watch from the stands.

Do you really think that if you had retired the dog, that he would have lived only 3 months longer?  Now, I admit to not owning a single hog dog, so I can't speak from experience.  I've only been on about 8 hog dog hunts with folks who own, train and hunt that way.  But in may way of thinking, isn't there still things an older dog can be used for rather than just being placed  into a kennel to watch the others go out?   Like being used to train younger dogs on smaller hogs in a pen perhaps?  That way he still gets to participate, but as his owner, you offer him some protection since he is older and no doubt not quite as swift or fleet of foot as he was 5 or 6 years earlier.       

Again, I am sorry to hear about the loss of the dog.  I know from losing dogs in the past that it can be a painful experience, especially when you have had so many hunts together.  God bless'
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2007, 02:44:23 PM »
Markc, no offense taken I was trying to give an example, but it looks like it failed LOL. What I was trying to say is I have retired dogs in the past and used them as you mentioned. However each time I loaded up the younger dogs that they helped train in the pen(which is not the same as in the woods) they looked for lack of better terms heartbroken, or ashamed of being left behind. Two of these died in the kennel when I was out on a hunt for no apparent reason. They were in good health and still strong as can be. Just up in age. It was at that time I decided I would rather the dogs go out on a hog even with their age being a handicap rather then them dying in the kennels on me. This way they can die with their dignity doing what they loved and dying happy.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 06:27:58 PM »
As Tom T. Hall says, "the only three thing in life worth a tinker's damn is old dogs, children, and watermelon wine."

I got out of the hound and bird dog business when I moved to West Texas many years ago, but I still remember a couple of good dogs that I lost to various causes, I know the pain, sorry for your loss.

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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 07:48:14 PM »
My springer looks heartbroken every time i go out the door without him,its funny as hell how sad he can look when he knows im leaving without him,if i have a firearm or fishing pole in my hand its a BIG deal,if i walk over to the closet and pick up a weapon of any kind he makes a bline for the door and camps there hoping it will improve his chances of going along.
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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2007, 07:36:35 AM »
You just DON'T retire able hog dogs. That is just the way it is. Any one who has every tried knows why. It never works.

The happiest you will ever see a hog dog is when they are loading up about to go hunting. The saddest you will ever see a hog dog is when every one else is loading up but not them.

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Re: Payed the piper last night
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2007, 05:18:25 PM »
Just ask my 9 year old Sammy what he thinks when his younger  "brother" Charlie jumps in the truck and he stays home with mamma. 

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Re: Payed the piper last night
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