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Here is the start of my next project
« on: June 13, 2007, 05:00:24 PM »
I just ordered a golf ball mortar barrel and am waiting for it to arrive. I started on the carriage for it to ride on. Here it is.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2007, 01:46:08 PM »
Looks nice, I'm jealous, I have 2 mortar tubes and no bases.https://www.gboreloaded.com/mhp/images/mongo223/scgbm.jpg
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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 05:01:45 PM »
Those are nice tubes. I built this carriage sight unseen for the barrel I should get here in few days. I had all the dimensions for the tube and kinda had to start from the ground up. But since this is not going to be a rear trunion mount I think this sled will work. All I will have to finish is the placement for the trunion bracket and the trunion caps. Either that or I have put the cart before the horse and and spent alot of time on a sled that may be all wrong. We shall see soon..... 

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 01:32:47 AM »
If it doesn't fit the one that's due-in, you can always MAKE (or have made) another one to fit!  THEN you have TWO mortars!

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 06:45:05 AM »
I see that you think the same as I. I realize now you have a sickness... I have it too. When do you have enough things that go BOOM! ;D

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 06:57:54 AM »
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When do you have enough things that go BOOM

Why would one ever even wonder about such a thing ?  :o

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 07:45:26 AM »
I see that you think the same as I. I realize now you have a sickness... I have it too. When do you have enough things that go BOOM! ;D

Hi doubleduece - My name is Tim.  I too am a recovering ...  ahhh ....   NO I'm NOT!  I'm ENJOYING the addiction!!   READY ON THE RIGHT?  READY ON THE LEFT?  THE FIRING LINE IS HOT!!!



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WOOOOOHOOOOO! My GB barrel arrived today.
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 10:34:39 AM »
The mailman brought me my GB Tube today, here is my happy face  ;D
   Everything fit on my carriage mostly the way I figured, only slight tweaks in the cheaks to fit the trunion perfectly. Now all I need is to attach the cheeks/brackets down to the platform and make trunion caps. Here is where I need you experts. I can make trunion caps out of 20GG copper and they finish nice, but are they strong enough? I can't bend the .125 aluminum worth a darn and get a nice finished 3/4" radius since I do not have any metal fab equip. Any ideas for me?, I don't want to skimp now and put on crappy looking caps...

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2007, 12:34:12 PM »
The caps aren't really going to do much during firing.  They just keep the barrel on the mount when it is moved.  Since you won't be traversing dirt roads behind a team of horses, the light weight trunnions will probably work just fine.
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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2007, 12:44:03 PM »
What can be done, and it can be one with nothing but a hacksaw and a 1# tank mapp gass torch, is to find a piece of iron pipe that is about the same ID as your trunnions. Cut the pipe in half, braze two ears to it with the torch and brazing rod, and you will have some steel trunnion caps.

Look back a bit at my Tropico's and my mini-dictator mortar and you will see similiar construction.  I think Tropico maybe welded his, I brazed mine.

For my 1 " brooks naval cannon I welded instead, but brazing would have worked as well.

I agree with GGaskill, the caps just hold the barrel on and don't really do much as far as recoil goes. That is especially true for a mortar. 20 G copper is very thin, but it would do the job if that is the way you wish to go.

I guess you could even make caps out of wood if you wish, possibly capped with a copper 20 g plate to help prevent it from cracking.

To hold the caps in place on a gun of that size, I have been drilling into the wood and JB-Glueing some threaded stainless 1/4-20 rod down there. The rod goes thru the caps and I use brass plated acorn nuts to hold the caps in place. The rod goes deep into the side plates, doing double-duty as a reinforcement for the sides.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2007, 04:14:38 PM »
THanks for the tips. I like the idea of the threaded rod trick with the jb weld. That would do the trick nice and I already have the acorn  nuts threaded rod and JB.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2007, 08:37:06 PM »
Rickk wrote:

To hold the caps in place on a gun of that size, I have been drilling into the wood and JB-Glueing some threaded stainless 1/4-20 rod down there. The rod goes thru the caps and I use brass plated acorn nuts to hold the caps in place.

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You could use hanger bolts.  They have a lag screw on one end and other end is  threaded for a nut.  Predrill the bed,  double nut the threaded end, rub bar soap on the threads for lubercant, and thread into the bed for the proper depth.  Remove the double nuts and ready for trunnion caps and nuts,.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2007, 01:35:58 AM »
And, the hanger bolts come in at least two different diameters that I'm aware of.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2007, 04:17:16 AM »
Hanger bolts would hold as well. The JB weld and threaded rod would put a bit less stress on the carriage during installation though. I would hate to split a side along the grain at this point. Having been there, it really sucks to break wood after lots of work is into it.

Either way, a couple of rods running deep (maybe even into the base) will add considerable strength to your sides.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2007, 04:46:41 AM »
I've used toilet screws from Lowe's extensively, and that's what's holding the trunnion caps on my ¼-scale Napoleon.

These are similar to the hanger bolts in that they have a wood screw thread one one end and a machine screw thread on the other.

The toilet screws are ¼" in diameter and made of brass, they're easy to cut to length and won't rust. They won't be as strong as a steel hanger bolt, but they were plenty strong for my applications.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2007, 07:38:19 AM »
"and made of brass"

PLENTY strong enough!  Even with my 4.5" mortar.

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Re: Here is the start of my next project
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2007, 03:52:47 PM »
That Dictator looks pretty good !!! The 4'th is  coming. I hope you'll get some action this year with yer mortar mate.