i started with the lyman casting kit. it came with a pot, the lubrisizer, and a few other things i believe. after a bunch of use, my pot shows no signs or slowing down, but my lubrisizer broke a piece. i called lyman to buy a new piece, and they had one to me within a week of the call TOTALLY FREE!!!!!!!!!!! i didnt ask to get anything, they insisted on it being that way. when it comes to casting equipement, lyman has my business forever.