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Offline Illhunter

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first mil surplus
« on: June 25, 2007, 11:02:03 AM »
bought my first mil surplus rifle it is a mosin nagant 91/30 have not got to shoot it yet but will soon and i was wonderimg what everyone's opinion is about this gun and how is the accuracy thanks

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Re: first mil surplus
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 03:26:05 PM »
I have had a few over the years.  I find them to be exactly what they were meant to be .. a tough, simply built and rather accurate rifle.  At the prices they sell for today, its hard not to own one.  Essentially, near .30-06 power for under a $100.

The safety is hard to employ quickly, but becomes easier as you become more familiar with it.  The rifle can usually be easily field stripped (which I recommend doing before firing.  Cosmo will be everywhere, especially inside the bolt).  Sometimes the forend bands can be difficult to remove.

Ammo is inexpensive if you choose to use military, which can be corrosive. Special cleaning care is necessary when using corrosive ammo. Commercial ammo is available from Winchester, Olympic, Prvi Partisan and others.  I've had real good luck finding the Olympic at gun shows for about $9.00 per box.

The Mosins can become addicting.  If it turns out you like it, it will only be a short time before you add a M-38 or M-44.  The carbines are neat.  They tend to have a good bit of muzzle flash, but are fun to shoot.  The M-44's are available everywhere and have the bayonet attached to the barrel.  The M-38's are getting scarce and do not have an attached bayonet.  They are around, but not everywhere.  There are other variations, such as the Sniper models, 91/59, Finnish versions, etc.  You will find a good bit of info over at Surplus Rifle.com.  Check the Mosin forum.

Good luck and enjoy.

P.S. Take a look at the movie; "Enemy at the Gate".  Lots of Mosins in use there.  ;)

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Re: first mil surplus
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 09:48:05 AM »
I've got an M38 and an M44 in my collection. One is bubba'd into a bush/truck type rifle I used from time to time during blackbear season, the other stays unmolested (yep, the M38) and only gets fired on rare occasion.

The carbines really are a lot more fun to shoot. The shorter barrels will attribute to lower velocities, but all that extra powder shows up as muzzle blast and a HUGE flame...it's addictive. A lot of people complain about the recoil, especially with those steel butt-plates...but it really doesn't bother me...100+ rounds in a T-shirt with no pad isn't a problem...  ???

Here are a few pics of the muzzle flash I got lucky and captured with my digital camera!




As mentioned, consider ALL of the surplus ammunition to be corrosive..even if it is labeled non-corrosive, the primers very likely still are. Ammonia is a good idea. I usually clean my bore thoroughly with hoppe's followed by a patch or two soaked in windex (which has ammonia in it) to neutralize the corrosive salts from the ammunition. Clean right away, or you'll find your bore will get pitted/rusty in due time. DEFINITELY clean thoroughly if it gets wet after being fired...water makes it worse.

www.surplusrifle.com has some good info on these mosins...enjoy it, they're a BLAST!!

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Re: first mil surplus
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2007, 06:28:15 PM »
 The lower blonde colored gun is my M38 Russian made '42 model Mosin...
 I reload all my own ammo as it is cheaper and I don't have to shoot corrosive ammo.Keep in mind though that these shoot .311" rather than .308" bullets.
 I like to shoot 150grSP with 3031 powder...With the longer barrel I would go with something like a 4350 powder...
 Get ready for a good shoulder pounding.


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