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Offline JerryKo

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Factory Irons shooting low?
« on: June 26, 2007, 09:58:27 AM »
Ok I only have two factory iron sighted barrels, but both are so low at 25 yds the rear ramp is barely in the slot.  One is 357mag the other 45/70 BC.  Anybody else noticing this?  Just curious.
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 10:07:46 AM »
Nothing new, H&R probably put the wrong front sights on em. Many BCs come with the .584" 17A front sight, I put a .404" tall 17A sight on my 45-120, many others have too. The .494" is probably the best choice for most.

You can have H&R send you the correct sight for the 357, or you can file the front sight down yourself to bring POI up if it's a plain blade sight. It it's one of the bead sights or a fiber optic, contact H&R.

You can also upgrade the front sight on the 357 with fiber optics if it doesn't have one, see the Peep and Firesights link in the FAQs.

Tim

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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 10:18:46 AM »
Thanks Tim,...I kind of figured when I first opened the box on the 357mag.  I thought I could butter bread with that sight.  I will probably replace with a firesight.  As for the 45/70 I need some elevation so I guess I'll contact H&R for replacement.
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 12:58:24 PM »
Just aim lower ;D ;D ;D ;D ::)
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 12:59:16 PM »
Kentucky underage!!! ;D
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 03:58:49 PM »
How is the measurement taken.  Bottom of dovetail to center of globe? :-\ :-\   I really never had to do this.  Time to learn.
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 04:27:44 PM »
Yes, that's how the 17A sight is measured.

Tim
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 01:09:57 AM »
You are right on the money..... It measures .584"

Thanks again for the help. ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 08:49:07 AM »
Contacted H&R about BC 45/70.  Rep said to send barrel back.  I asked if other height sights were available and she said they only stock one size and it was .584".  I further asked what would be done to correct and she said hard to tell without knowing why shooting low.  They would need barrel.

NOT what I was looking for. >:(

Is this a common practice to request barrels back?
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 09:06:39 AM »
Yes, in the case of the BC because the front sight is fitted in a dovetail. They told me the same thing when I emailed them about mine shooting low, I just ordered a .404" front sight and installed it my self. It's not hard to fit a dovetail sight, just takes a file and a little trial and error until it fits snug, then stake it in place if it's too loose. I know they have .494" sights cuz that's what should come in it and others have received that sight in theirs!!

Just a heads up in case you'd like different front sight inserts, the Lee Shaver set is real nice.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,49.htm

Tim

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,1727.htm

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,1728.htm
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 09:07:51 AM »
Another option would be to file down a post insert to raise POI, never tried it, just a thought. ;)
Tim
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 10:33:28 AM »
I just finished ordering from Buff Arms.  I got the 494 and special inserts.

Once again... Thank You Tim.

Anybody want to buy globe front sight. ::)

Would old sight work on 45 LC barrel if dovetailed out, or still too low for it also?
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2007, 10:59:29 AM »
Yes, the .584" sight should work on the 45Colt carbine barrel, it's just about the same height, but the base of the 17A sight is just a smidge wider at .572" compared to about .550" for the Colt sight.

Tim
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Re: Factory Irons shooting low?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2007, 01:58:32 PM »
I had the same problem a couple years back with my SIDEKICK.

 I solves the problem with all new sights. I didnt like the plastic crap anyhow.... I put on a T/C rear site (I had on hand) and a williams "firesite" front blade. (I bought)




 I dont seem to be able to find the pic of the front sight... but this fixed the problem nicely and I got some great sights for very little cost!!

 CW
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