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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2007, 03:22:04 PM »
Quote from: GGaskill on July 12, 2007, 11:32:14 AM
Does anyone have golfball or soda can bore dictator mortar plans?  I'd like for a dictator to be the next project.

A 13" seacoast mortar scaled to golf balls would be 5 5/8" diameter and scaled to beer can diameter would be 8.68" in diameter (virtually the same diameter as a full scale Coehorn.)  Going just from the scale factor, the golf ball version would weigh about 40 lbs; the beer can version would weigh about 140 lbs.

Excellent estimate.  Mine, in GB, tube and trunnions weigh 30.0 lbs.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2007, 04:23:43 PM »
The whole original is rated at about 17000 lbs so I just divided that number by the cube of the scale factor and rounded off.  No big deal.  Presumably you should include the weight of the mount to get to 40 lbs.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2007, 06:06:05 PM »
Quote from: intoodeep on July 10, 2007, 07:03:19 PM
neilert,

 I know this is a bit off the direction you were looking. But, Dominick Carpenter makes a 1" bore Dictator that can't be beat. This thing is awesome! If, nothing else it will give you a real good visual of a scale Dictator.



Good Luck with your new project. We look forward to seeing the progress.
thanks to intoodeep, well guys i'm cheating. Dominick Carpenter is making me a Dictator mortar in golf ball size, i should have it in a week and a half.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2007, 06:13:27 PM »
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thanks to intoodeep, well guys i'm cheating. Dominick Carpenter is making me a Dictator mortar in golf ball size, i should have it in a week and a half.


Glad I could help spend your money....... ;D ;D ;D You will not be disappointed.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2007, 06:16:21 PM »
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thanks to intoodeep, well guys i'm cheating. Dominick Carpenter is making me a Dictator mortar in golf ball size, i should have it in a week and a half.


Glad I could help spend your money....... ;D ;D ;D You will not be disappointed.

hey, what happens in Vegas, is supposed to stay in Vegas!
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2007, 06:22:21 PM »
Quote from: lance on July 13, 2007, 06:16:21 PM
hey, what happens in Vegas, is supposed to stay in Vegas!

 :D  :D  :D Touche.....

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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2007, 01:44:05 PM »
Hey, I was wondering if somebody could email me the full set of drawings on this dictator mortar? I have been wanting to build one and My cousin is in a metal shop class and can cut the sheet parts on a cnc plasma machine. I have a piece of steel for the barrel here bored for a golfball and is begging to be finished!  ;D
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2007, 02:57:17 PM »
Hey, I was wondering if somebody could email me the full set of drawings on this dictator mortar?

The best source for plans is Antique Ordnance Publishers (AOP); get No. 41, 13 Inch Sea-Coast Mortar, Model 1861.  Their folio includes lots more than just the plans and is well worth the price.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2007, 03:41:11 PM »
 Wow, it's been awhile since i saw this topic, great to see it again!!! EVERYBODY should have a DICTATOR MORTAR, i sure have had fun with mine. ya know those craters in the Moon, some were put there by my golfballs ;D ;D ;D
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2007, 06:10:46 AM »
Can somebody help me? I tried to contact AOP about their drawings set on the dictator, no luck yet.  I have printed the drawing for the barrel that Double D posted and started my barrel scaled to golf ball diameter and every thing seems to work out. I printed the second plate from the link that GGaskill posted and the measurements have been hand written. The measurements for the base don't jive with each other let alone the barrel. Can someone give a brother some help?  I've got some steel here and my cousin is ready to plasma cut the parts for me. I don't know how big to make this thing now.  :'(
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2007, 07:23:24 AM »
Did you call AOP?
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2007, 08:56:36 AM »
Definitely call him, evenings Central Time.  He doesn't seem to monitor his email very closely.  Also, this is a family second business so he doesn't spend all day every day working with it. 

But the plans are worth the trouble.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2007, 10:36:13 AM »
Call hin on Eastern time.  Your right , he does not watch his email close.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2007, 11:06:29 AM »
I'll give him a call.I am wanting a few sets of drawings now, ;)   I will probably just move ahead with this Dictator, I have been able to scale off of some pics and compare them with the drawings by William Green and I have a decent set of outlines for the side plates. The big push is for my 16 year old cousin, he needs a cnc project for metal shop by Monday. He has to prove that he can use the new CNC Plasma machine before moving on to his next personal project. I have given him a dxf of the side plates, all three transom plates and the gussets for the rear jack plates. I already have a pretty good start on all the other bits an pieces that needed work on the lathe. I plan on starting the barrel next week. So, I guess this will be a "stand-off" scale in Golfball caliber.  My next one will probably be the 10" seacoast mortar of 1840.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2012, 08:39:32 AM »
Quote from: Double D on July 10, 2007, 07:09:42 PM
Double D gives permission!

Send me an email and I will send you a copy of the plans.  They seem to loose resolution when posted here.

The link to plans is invalid :(
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2012, 09:34:50 AM »
Will a full size one help?  This may be for sale!

 Are you serious or are you joking about a full size 13 inch dictator mortar possibly going up for sale? I heard Paulson Brothers might be selling theirs but I don't have $75,000..
  Scott
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2012, 11:41:10 AM »
Quote from: Rock6.3 on April 30, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Double D on July 10, 2007, 07:09:42 PM
Double D gives permission!

Send me an email and I will send you a copy of the plans.  They seem to loose resolution when posted here.

The link to plans is invalid :(
The AOP link worked for me.  It's from 2010, but I think still good.  Somebody somewhere is selling the Green plans, and says they have the rights to sell them. 

The Green Dictator plans are two pages crammed full of drawings as I remember from my 1/16 scale 1861 build, but mostly details like the axles and wheels and so on.  I believe one link earlier is to the second page of them and here is a low-res of the first page: http://www.jerryclement.ca/Military/The-Dictator/13466496_z9f92K/2#!i=980425347&k=EDgwv&lb=1&s=L.  Between the two, you should be able to decide if you want to buy them or just strike out on your own from there.  There's really not a lot to a mortar in most cases.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2012, 12:35:10 PM »
This is the latest AOP Catalog; I will change the link in the above post.
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Re: dictator mortar plans
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2012, 02:48:05 PM »
Quote from: Rock6.3 on April 30, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Double D on July 10, 2007, 07:09:42 PM
Double D gives permission!

Send me an email and I will send you a copy of the plans.  They seem to loose resolution when posted here.

The link to plans is invalid :(

That is because of a  long ago  GBO software  upgrade that didn't carry over attachments.

The plans are in the mail Rock.
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