Author Topic: dictator mortar plans (Read 5002 times)

neilert · « **on:** July 10, 2007, 06:11:06 PM »

Does anyone have golfball or soda can bore dictator mortar plans? I'd like for a dictator to be the next project.

Double D · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:23:21 PM »

I have Dictator plans that could be scalled up to Golf ball size, interested?

neilert · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:30:33 PM »

Yes, I am interested- I can draw or scale them in autocad, but I'm mostly interested in good accuracy to the original if possible.
Thank you very much for the reply.

LivnDream · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:34:08 PM »

any chance i could get a copy also?

neilert · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:41:19 PM »

With Double D's permission, I could scale a Dictator to golfball and soda can size for your use. I have not been able to find a good side view or section of a Dictator yet.

LivnDream · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:45:36 PM »

with double d's permission that would be great

intoodeep · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:03:19 PM »

neilert,

I know this is a bit off the direction you were looking. But, Dominick Carpenter makes a 1" bore Dictator that can't be beat. This thing is awesome! If, nothing else it will give you a real good visual of a scale Dictator.

Good Luck with your new project. We look forward to seeing the progress.

Double D · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:09:42 PM »

Double D gives permission!

Send me an email and I will send you a copy of the plans. They seem to loose resolution when posted here.

neilert · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:13:15 PM »

Thanks Double D! When I receive them, I'll send them back to you scaled for your use, as a pdf or an autocad file if you could use it.

Thanks again, I can't wait to start this project.....

Double D · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:21:29 PM »

The Dictator set is four pages.

neilert · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:29:25 PM »

Double D, I sent an email for the plans- they look very detailed, it's exactly what I needed. I noticed there is no powder chamber. Did the Dictator have one?

GGaskill · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2007, 08:07:58 PM »

Try AOP No. 41. It will have everything at full scale.

By the way, the plans posted by DD were made for models by William F. Green.

entsminger · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:37:45 AM »

I would very much like a set of plans as well as talked about in posts above including the autocad versions of golf ball and soda can sized dictator, I'll pay you postage or whatever? I hope to make one of these if I ever get a lathe. I have a copy of the origional dictator plans from antique ordnance publishers but Double D's plans look different? I have just been taking the plans and shrinking them on a Xerox machine to find the reduced sizes. Not too accurate I'm sure. What is AOP #41 that George is talking about?

Scott Springston
1713 N Quebec st.
Arlington Va 22207

Double D · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:55:03 AM »

Scott AOP 41 is the Dictator plans you have from Antique Ordnance Publishers.

For those of you who don't know Scott, He built one of the best full Size Dictators ever posted on this board a couple of years ago....He didn't paint it, he left it in the "white"!!

intoodeep · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2007, 04:41:21 AM »

Quote from: Double D on July 11, 2007, 03:55:03 AM

For those of you who don't know Scott, He built one of the best full Size Dictators ever posted on this board a couple of years ago....He didn't paint it, he left it in the "white"!!

And that.... Is the "Cold" hard facts!!!

Double D · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2007, 06:28:49 AM »

Quote from: intoodeep on July 11, 2007, 04:41:21 AM

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And that.... Is the "Cold" hard facts!!!

Yeah "Cold" hard facts!!!

LivnDream · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2007, 11:03:15 AM »

Double D sent you an email

petersen_arms · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:07:41 AM »

I saved the drawing, printed it as a picture, and it was crystal clear. The title block says that it is plate one of two. Is it possible to get the second page, with the base, posted? Looks like a nice set of plans and would be greatly appreciated, not only by myself but I'm sure by many others as well. It's going to be a great project. I've been waiting for the right project to come along so I can post the project on GBO and, man, this is going to be a fun one!

Double D · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:21:31 AM »

Actually there is 4 sheets tot he set, can you receive email from South Africa?

petersen_arms · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:09:17 AM »

South Africa?

That's a long ways, It's amazing how the web has changed little hobbies like ours and made it so much more accessible to almost anyone.

Double D · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:42:13 AM »

Yep South Africa, just SSE of Florida. Did you get the email?

petersen_arms · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:29:04 AM »

Yes I did, Thanks. I'm looking them over now trying to get a materials list going. I think I might thicken up the side plates to an 1/8" and put a nice arc on the front, top, step plate. It looks like the one in the photo is rounded in the front so you could walk around the front of barrel, maybe for loading?

GGaskill · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:32:14 AM »

Does anyone have golfball or soda can bore dictator mortar plans? I'd like for a dictator to be the next project.

A 13" seacoast mortar scaled to golf balls would be 5 5/8" diameter and scaled to beer can diameter would be 8.68" in diameter (virtually the same diameter as a full scale Coehorn.) Going just from the scale factor, the golf ball version would weigh about 40 lbs; the beer can version would weigh about 140 lbs.

lance · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:49:32 PM »

Quote from: GGaskill on July 12, 2007, 11:32:14 AM

Does anyone have golfball or soda can bore dictator mortar plans? I'd like for a dictator to be the next project.

Going just from the scale factor, the golf ball version would weigh about 40 lbs; the beer can version would weigh about 140 lbs.

i'll go by the age factor, i'm getting older so that 40lbs sounds a whole lot more fun than 140lbs....

neilert · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:25:51 PM »

I agree- it looks like a golfball dictator will be the way I go. I haven't had a chance to scale the dictator yet. It looks like a few others will be building one as well.
I may have the carriage sides waterjet cut. Would anyone be interested in a set if I have some extras cut? There's probablly some savings, because my waterjet shop charges by the hour rather than by the unit.

petersen_arms · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:30:36 PM »

neilert, If you wouldn't mind, I would also love to get a copy of of the cad drawings whenever you get them done. I can see myself building a soda can version this winter and it's so much faster and easier to scale up or down with cad files. Thanks.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:58:35 PM »

Me too, Me too, Me too! (Cad version - dwg or dxf)

I already have the steel cut for the tube and have done a prototype golf-ball caliber tube.

dominick · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:29:02 PM »

Will a full size one help? This may be for sale!

jeeper1 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:19:05 PM »

I don't have enough space in my driveway for that, even if I removed my jeep.

GGaskill · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:24:47 PM »

I'm not sure my driveway would hold 17000 lbs in that small of a footprint and once it was set down, I would be unable to move it.

Is it possible to get the second page, with the base, posted?

See this web page for the William F. Green base plan sheet.