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Offline Hooker

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The Judge Has Ruled
« on: July 13, 2007, 04:14:54 PM »
  This one is important to read...

>Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
>tried to light it?
>
>     Did you know his trial is over?
>     Did you know he was sentenced?
>     Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?
>
>     Didn't think so.
>
>
>Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
>
>      Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.
>
>Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he
>ha d anything to say.  His response: After admitting his guilt to the
>court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin
>Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stating, "I
>think I will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at
>war with your country."
>
>Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:
>
>January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:
>
>"Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon
>you.
>
>On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the
>custody of the United States Attorney General.  On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7,
>the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the
>sentence on each count to run consecutively.  (That's 80 years.)
>
>On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years again, to
>be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed.  The Court imposes
>upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that's an
>aggregate fine of $2 million.  The Court accepts the government's
>recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the
>amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
>
>The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment.
>The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because
>the law requires it.  But the life sentences are real life sentences so
>I need go no further.
>
>This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes.  It is a fair
>and just sentence.  It is a righteous sentence.
>
>Now, let me explain this to you.  We are not afraid of you or any of
>your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.  We are Americans.  We have
>been through the fire before.  There is too much war talk here and I say
>that to everyone with the utmost respect.  Here in this court, we deal
>with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as
>individuals.  As human beings, we reach out for justice.
>
>You are not an enemy combatant.  You are a terrorist.  You are not a
>soldier in any war.  You are a terrorist.  To give you that reference,
>to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the
>officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think
>you are a soldier.  You are not----- you are a terrorist.  And we do not
>negotiate with terrorists.  We do not meet with terrorists.  We do not
>sign documents with terrorists.  We hunt them down one by one and bring
>them to justice.
>
>So war talk is way out of line in this court.  You are a big fellow. But
>you are not that big.  You're no warrior.  I've known warriors. You are
>a terrorist.  A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted
>murders.  In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when
>you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered
>where the press and the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big
>deal."
>
>You are no big deal.
>
>What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys
>have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to
>grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.  What was it that
>led you here to this courtroom today?
>
>I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to
>search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led
>you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing?  And, I
>have an answer for you.  It may not satisfy you, but as I search this
>entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
>
>
>It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You
>hate our freedom.  Our individual freedom.  Our individual freedom to
>live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not
>believe as we individually choose.  Here, in this society, the very wind
>carries freedom.  It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea.  It
>is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this
>beautiful courtroom.  So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice
>is administered fairly, individually, and discretely.  It is for
>freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your
>behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you
>before other judges.
>
>We Americans are all about freedom.  Because we all know that the way we
>treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.  Make no
>mistake though.  It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any
>price, to preserve our freedoms.  Look around this courtroom.  Mark it
>well.  The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here.
>The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will
>long endure.
>
>Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America , the American
>people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not
>war, individual justice is in fact being done.  The very President of
>the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms
>and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries
>of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically,
>to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.
>
>See that flag, Mr. Reid?  That's the flag of the United States of
>America .  That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.
>That flag stands for freedom.  And it always will.
>
>Mr. Custody Officer.  Stand him down.
>
>
>So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets?  We
>need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject.  Pass
>this around.  Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had
>to say.  Powerful words that strike home.  God bless America

We do have SOME correct Judges still on the bench ----at this time.....
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Re: The Judge Has Ruled
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 04:57:09 PM »
Awesome!
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Re: The Judge Has Ruled
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 07:35:43 PM »
"We do have SOME correct Judges still on the bench ----at this time..... "

Yes, but few and far between, the majority would have let the poor kid walk, after all he didn't get enough oatmeal cookies while growing up.
 
 

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Re: The Judge Has Ruled
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 03:36:01 AM »
"We do have SOME correct Judges still on the bench ----at this time..... "

Yes, but few and far between, the majority would have let the poor kid walk, after all he didn't get enough oatmeal cookies while growing up.
 
 


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Re: The Judge Has Ruled
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 04:49:28 AM »
WOW!!!!!!!!
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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Re: The Judge Has Ruled
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 11:21:42 AM »
Thanks for posting the judges sentencing statements.  It is too bad that some of our readers haven't realized the same situation lies in Iraq.  If we pull out now, we leave ourselves open to every terrorist organization attack since we are considered weak and ineffective.  That would be a great moral booster to them.  The war in Iraq is now about fighting terrorism in Iraq regardless of the reasons we went there.  With Hussein gone, the Iraqi people need to stabilize their government internally and that just isn't going to happen overnight.  This judge hit the nail on the head and drove it home with one blow that correlates with our position in the middle east.  It has been my position that religious jihads inciting violence and mass murder is terrorism outside of government action.  However, if the government shielding these people refuse to control their actions, then it is time for that government to be replaced with one that negotiates our differences internally and externally.  I salute this judges decision. 
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