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Offline gunpilot

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cimarron quality?
« on: July 25, 2007, 04:45:32 AM »
are cimarron single action revolvers good quality?   thanks
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Offline Dusty Wheeler

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 06:51:18 AM »
They certainly are!  Their customer service is also excellent.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 08:35:35 AM »
Hey gunpilot:

They have a good external finish.   Check the 11 external screws for tightness.   Mine had 5 that could be tightened some.   No sign of internal problems, although I did smooth up the Hammer Cam a tad.    After shooting you'll want to check the screws again.   If any come loose, a little bit of clear fingernail polish on the threads will be enough to hold them in.   Some guns are bad about shaking screws loose, while others never have a problem.     Mine is an Artillary model in .45 caliber.   :)
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 11:14:48 PM »
good guns but i dont agree with the customer service part! I had a thunderer 44 special that was 2 years old and the front sight blade fell off while shooting it. They charged me a 100 bucks to put it back on. I nicely complained to them and told them ruger or smith or any of the other manufactures would fix it for free and they not so nicely told me that it was a 100 bucks and if i didnt pay they would hold my gun till i did. Seems they fixed it before even getting my ok. I told them that that wasnt proper procedure for repairing and that i should have had a quote of the job first and was told basically tough ---- if you want your gun pay for it. They were about the rudest customer service dept ive delt with. The only ones worse were magnum research. I promply sold the gun as soon as i got it back and needless to say there will never be another cim. or mr gun in my house again. There are just to many good products sold by good companys to put up with being treated rudely. Ive sent guns to Marlin, ruger, Remington, kimber, springfield, smith and wesson and colt and all have been fixed free of charge and some i even told them that it was my fault they were broke and they usually came back with more done then i even asked! Most i ever paid was shipping to get it there and in the case of smith and colt they even paid that! Customer service means alot to me and is why i buy all my loading gear from dillon and rcbs now. There are companys that go out of there way to help you and those are the ones i spend my money at. Even if it cost a few dollars more theres alot of piece of mind buying something that you know you only have to buy ONCE!
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 02:57:35 AM »
Lloyd.  Plus one.  I'm never rude to customer service people, and I see no reason for them to be rude to me.  I have a Cim and it has twice broken the hammer notches just by working the action.  No fanning, no dropping, no fast cycling.  Just routine cocking and firing.  I've quit calling them.  I just locate another part and replace it myself.  The 3rd one in it now and it seems to be working.  When I'd contact them, they'd tell me it was rough handling.  My guns get treated gently.  I don't compete and my loads are mild.  I don't do fast draw and I don't drop them.  But it was my fault.

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2007, 01:14:01 PM »
You can get the same gun (sometimes slightly cheaper) from EMF, IAR, Navy Arms or Taylor's and get friendly, prompt  customer service to boot.  Cimmaron is just an importer with a warehouse, a couple of mail clerks and a blacksmith.  Not even their own storefront.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 02:41:03 AM »
Howdy,
Unless it's a Colt or a USFA, they're all Italian. I have a couple of 7-1/2 inch EMF Hartfords chambered in .44 Winchester. They lasted one Cowboy Action season before one of the bolt/trigger springs broke. I gave them a call and they sent me two more. I ended up having my 'smith re-time the action and install music wire springs. The triggers break at around 9 ounces.
The worst thing about the Uberti revolvers is that there is no drag of the bolt on the cylinder. They come from the factory timed so the bolt drops into the slot perfectly. Not bad, but if you cock the gun fast, the cylinder will rotate past the locking bolt. Ruger has drag built-in, and they always work.
One thing I wasn't expecting with my EMF's: They have re-designed the hand spring. Instead of the leaf dragging along the frame mortise, they have borrowed from Ruger and have a small coil spring applying pressure to the back of the hand as it rises. Very smooth and reliable.
Both my Hartfords have experienced hundreds more rounds than the gun was designed to shoot. They still look good and shot BP and my smokeless loads to point of aim right out of the box. Cimarron offers a lot of different finishes, but I like dealing with EMF and their great price.

Love my Hartfords!
Bitterroot
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2007, 01:00:22 PM »
Like many other guns the Italian made single action revolvers need a little tweaking to make them real good.
I bought a used Uberti cattleman 5½" in 45colt and after a little quality time with it the trigger pull is clean, crisp and smooth.
The hammer was hitting VERY hard so I reduced the tension on the hammer spring a lot and there is still no problem of not hitting the primers hard enough.
All revolvers shoot well, and so does the Uberti but the Italian clones need a little fine tuning to shoot their best.
This is a good sitehttp://www.gunblast.com/JimTaylor_Uberti.htm'
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2007, 02:55:45 AM »
I managed to squeeze off 4 good shots and one bad the other day.
I was shooting my Uberti in 45colt one-handed at 25m. the bad shot was my own fault, not to blame on the gun.
The Uberti shoots really good in my opinion.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79113855@N00/953672449/
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2007, 04:52:54 PM »
Good shootin SAA
   My brother surprized all the guys on the police force at the range.   He brought out his SAA Uberti .45 cals. and they were amazed at how well those SAA's performed.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2007, 03:32:48 PM »
Cimarron's customer service is probably the worst of all the importers. I've been impressed with EMF. They sent me a trigger guard, no questions asked, for my '75 Remington, and they were courteous. Taylor's is good too.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 07:55:28 PM »
Quote from: Bitterroot Bob on July 28, 2007, 02:41:03 AM
..................The worst thing about the Uberti revolvers is that there is no drag of the bolt on the cylinder. They come from the factory timed so the bolt drops into the slot perfectly. Not bad, but if you cock the gun fast, the cylinder will rotate past the locking bolt. Ruger has drag built-in, and they always work. ......................

Love my Hartfords!
Bitterroot


Good stuff that. First time I've seen a reasonable explanation for the bolt draggin'. Thot it might be just for production expediency. Now I see my Rugers in a new light  ;D
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