Thank you Sir, right after posting an old friend called and gave me the data for the #101, and thinks he may have the data for the #162. He will call me back on it. There are several reasons I would rather load and shoot it. One is that after shooting some of his loads I was impressed with the preformance of some of this old stuff. After pulling the bullets on some of it, it would be easy to reproduce if this proves to be the powder he was using. I'm also one of the old farts that hates to waste things, and I'm not interested in trying to resell any of the stuff. I bought the old guys stuff to use, trade, or give to friends. The dies, and things that I already have will go to someone that doesn't have a set that caliber. Bullets and things I don't shoot will be traded for some I do use, or I'll give them to someone that shoots that caliber/weight. One thing I have learned as I get older is that waste is one of the things we can do something about. Having several sets of the same caliber dies when some younger shooter needs a set doesn't do me or them any good. I go through several 8 pound jugs of powder a year, why not use this if it will work in something I shoot? Thanks again for the info.