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Offline swampthing

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.480/.475 on game
« on: August 14, 2007, 12:41:10 PM »
Anybody got any experience with 325-400g WFN's on game @1000fps or less?

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 01:07:06 PM »
I shot a hog with the 400 and it worked fine but then that's not much of a surprise is it?


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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 11:42:19 PM »
not wfns but shot a pig and a deer with the rcbs swc 400 at about 1000fps and it worked great.
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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 12:27:13 AM »
My hardcast WFN weighs 420 gr., and I have no experience with 325-400's. However, the performance of the 420 should certainly be very similar to a 400 WFN. Before I began to use the 400 XTP almost exclusively in my .475's, I took several head of game with the WFN, including large hogs, bear, and buffalo. Penetration was full on all animals but one, but I run my loads faster than your inquiry...between 1150-1350 fps, depending upon the gun, to flatten the trajectory a bit.
The one animal on which penetration was not complete is instructive. On a wild water buffalo in Argentina, a frontal chest shot penetrated diagonally the entire length of the body to the hip bone, where it turned and traveled half way down the leg to the knee joint...a total of 7 feet of penetration, on approximately 2000 lbs. of buff. The muzzle velocity of that load was 1350 fps, the hit was at about 75 yds. or a bit less. I expect a 400 WFN @ 1000 fps will penetrate a bit less, but the experience of several people seems to show it will be perfectly adequate, penetration wise, for most commonly hunted game. A WFN can hit like a hammer.

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 12:46:44 AM »
I've been using my .44 quite a bit, load is 280g WFN @1250fps, it has given me fast kill speed. I've gone to the .480 as an experiment. I get the same DV of 100 @1050fps as the .44 gets at 1250. Was your entrance and exit holes the same size when shooting the 400's? With the weight and meplat of that slug, it doesn't seem necessary to run it any faster than 1000-1050fps to get a clean 1" wound channel all the way through. Just curious, is the report any easier on the ears than say, a supersonic .44/.45cal.
I'm trying to achieve the ultimate med-big game close range, <75yds., hand gun that doesn't make my ears ring in 2 shots.

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 12:52:27 AM »
Ken I typed that reply, and didn't, read yours first before posting it. That's some depth. How far did that buffalo go after the shot?   

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 11:37:50 AM »
A handfull of yards.

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 05:42:35 PM »
I shot a 400 gr. RCBS cast bullet over the back of a deer last season.......
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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 06:19:05 PM »
I shot a 400 gr. RCBS cast bullet over the back of a deer last season.......

How that work out Tom?  ;D


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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 11:17:09 AM »
I shot a 400 gr. RCBS cast bullet over the back of a deer last season.......

How that work out Tom?  ;D
that is one long tracking job when that happens...hate when that happens.
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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 04:40:42 PM »
Well, it was foggy and I kinda shot foolishly almost over my shoulder, not to mention a few other  stupid things that I did at the time. I did find where the bullet impacted on the far edge of the road that said deer was walking down....
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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 07:22:21 AM »
My hardcast WFN weighs 420 gr., and I have no experience with 325-400's. However, the performance of the 420 should certainly be very similar to a 400 WFN. Before I began to use the 400 XTP almost exclusively in my .475's, I took several head of game with the WFN, including large hogs, bear, and buffalo. Penetration was full on all animals but one, but I run my loads faster than your inquiry...between 1150-1350 fps, depending upon the gun, to flatten the trajectory a bit.
The one animal on which penetration was not complete is instructive. On a wild water buffalo in Argentina, a frontal chest shot penetrated diagonally the entire length of the body to the hip bone, where it turned and traveled half way down the leg to the knee joint...a total of 7 feet of penetration, on approximately 2000 lbs. of buff. The muzzle velocity of that load was 1350 fps, the hit was at about 75 yds. or a bit less. I expect a 400 WFN @ 1000 fps will penetrate a bit less, but the experience of several people seems to show it will be perfectly adequate, penetration wise, for most commonly hunted game. A WFN can hit like a hammer.


Ken,

Why did you go to the 400gr Horn XTP?

Thanks,

Paul

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 11:36:56 AM »
Paul,
Simplicity. Everything I've hit with it falls over dead promptly, and it's extremely accurate in my guns. Those I've recovered from elk, black bears and bison have expanded, but held together pretty well. Seems to kill faster than a cast WFN. I keep some cast loaded for some ( presently unknown) need in the future, and even have some 400 gr. Speers from several years ago. The Speer is okay for hogs, but I much prefer the XTP for big stuff.

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Re: .480/.475 on game
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 02:03:18 PM »
Ken,

Thanks,

Paul