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Offline mandoman

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Homemade Blackpowder lube ?
« on: August 15, 2007, 08:07:30 AM »
Plan on making my own homemade cartridge black powder lube from beeswax,crisco and canning wax. If I make a big batch what is the shelf life ?
How to store it ? in the refridgerator ?  thankyou

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Re: Homemade lube ?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 03:04:34 PM »

Hey
try 9 oz of beez wax, 2 to 3 oz of caster oil, 1oz witch hazel, 1 teaspoon of murphys oil soap. if you need thicker just add more wax thinner add more oil.
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Re: Homemade lube ?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 06:54:49 PM »
  I've never done much with black powder lubricant, and the LBT lubes do not work well with real black powder, as a softener for the soot is needed to create lubrication. Using any petrolium product I'm aware of will degrade your black powder lube, as it will not keep the fouling soft.
 For the black powder substitutes, no lube will beat LBT Blue Soft.  This according to many customer reports and some testing myself.

  The old black powder lubes used animal fat.  Mutton tallow was popular, and can be smelled in some of the best current commercial lubes.
  The lube must be soft to soften the soot. Bear lard is super as a softener, (hog is very similar but harder) mixed with tallow, which could be from mutton, (probably softest) beef, deer, elk, etc.  Understand that lard and tallow are the names for fat which has been rendered by heat, which dries the water out of it and seperates it from the tissue which holds it in the animal. (cracklings is the old term for the hard fryings)  DO NOT USE ANY FAT WITH SALT IN IT.  Chicken fat, though I've never heard of it being used in bullet lube, is a super lube almost equal to bear fat, but softer, and would be very suitable for a softening agent for one of the tallows.

  All animal fats turn rancid rapidly, which makes a strong smell but doesn't hurt their lubrocity.  Canning as with meat, fruit etc is a good way to store, as is freezing.    (Because I hate chemical vapors, having breethed far to many in my 50 years of shop experiance, I've experimented extensively with fats and oils as cutting oil in the machine shop.  Bear fat is the only cutting oil I've used in my machine shop for about 10 years.  Chicken fat before I got hold of bear fat.) 
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Re: Homemade lube ?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 12:24:37 AM »
Ive had good luck with mixing crisco and beeswax 5050 then adding about 5 percent olive oil to it.
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Re: Homemade Blackpowder lube ?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 05:22:35 AM »
50% beeswax  40% olive oil 10% baby oil.  Works great for pan lubing, and smokeless pistol bullets.

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Re: Homemade Blackpowder lube ?
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 03:46:51 PM »
  Most baby oil isn't a natural oil, but is petrolium derived, I believe.  Check ingredients.  If it isn't all natural, better use lard on the baby and bullets both.  Actually olive oil is the best skin oil there is, so far as total health, because it is mineral and nutrient rich and is absorbed by the skin.  A baby which his stomach eaten out with lye, many years ago, was raised to his teens on nothing but olive oil rubbed on his skin, and water absorbed through his skin.

  Don't ask my why I went there.  Nothing can replace natural.

  Also.  Quite frankly, I don't understand why people want to shoot something cheap on pistol bullets, unless they have a special luber for it and only shoot low velocity loads.  Once I developed the LBT lubes I won't even try anything else, because they totally eliminate leading, and I hate scrubing lead out of gun barrels.  I want it ALL to go out when the primer pops, and ALL to hit the target in one spot.

  However, if low price is really critical, just use the best quality wheel bearing grease you can buy.  It willl at least match any home made lube receipe I've ever heard of, at as low a price, with no mixing mess.
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