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rem 700 adl
« on: August 16, 2007, 11:06:39 AM »
i was at wal mart and they have like 3 rem 700 adl synthetic in a couple different calibers like 243 and 30-06 for $325-$350 also had a rem 870 mag for $266 and a rem 710 for $275 i am wondering if these are decent prices and if these rifles and shot gun are worth this and these guns shoot accurately

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 11:29:56 AM »
The ADLs are excellent guns and well worth the price. I've owned a .223 and a friend had a .243. Both were super accurate guns that had no trouble getting 1/2" groups with loads they liked.

The 870 will be an Express at that price. I am a die hard Remington fan but I do NOT like the express 870s. I've owned several and been disappointed in all. They work but not smoothly like a Wingmaster.

You could not give me a 710 but most who buy them seem satisfied with them. They are not for serious rifle guys but rather for those folks who hunt a bit each season around home and never shoot until sight in time just before season each year. The one box or less a year kinda guy. If that's you you might be satisfied with it but for sure you'll like the ADL.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 11:39:30 AM »
a decent price for one they had like 6 of these rifle and they were $325 and $350 and i beleive they were 243 and 30-06 i was thinking if getting a good rifle and how do these compare to say a stevens just curious thanks for the info


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 01:04:47 PM »
VASTLY superior. Really all they lack to be fully the equal of the best Remington M700 is a better stock and even tho many don't like them those plastic ADL stocks do not seem to hamper accuracy or at least not in the ones I've seen.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 01:26:04 PM »
ok i am convinced and i did like the look but would like wood over the synthetic i will have to go look at them and get hold of them for feel and the will be my all around cal so will get the 30-06 probably thanks GB you have helped alot now just how to tell wife i want a new rifle along with the 3 other guns i have already told her i want.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 01:52:02 PM »
Not to many years ago I'd of agreed they were better than a Stevens / Savage But now I can't, they are about equal in quality as the Stevens has come up, and the Rem down. (fit / Finish on the rem)

The Stevens are More accurate out of the box 95% of the time, but the Rem will get there with a lil tweaking.

The Stevens is more User Friendly if you wanted to change calibers later on, the Layman can do a Barrel Swap in under 30 min.

If you get a 30/06 do yourself a favor and get a Real recoin pad (Limb Saver) Before you even shoot it, I'd also fill the but of the stock with expanding foam. The Plastic stocks on Both are not very kind on hard recoiling guns AKA Damn my shoulder Hurts  ;D  I have always been a Rem 700 man, and I love  them still, but my next purchases will be Stevens or Savage... they have come a long way, and are Scarry Accurate !

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 01:59:32 PM »
i have looked at stevens and savage but no place around has them so i can see them up close where i have seen many rem 700's but have heard that stevens is a pretty good gun.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 02:09:09 PM »
Can't go wrong with either... I mounted a scope and sighted in a 700 in .270 fresh from Wal-Mart last week for a friend, after a lil tweaking with the trigger, it was shooting just over 1" ... Will do better broke in and bedded / floated

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2007, 01:07:19 AM »
i recommend you buy the Remington and forget the cheaper, ill-concieved Stevens, and the SSssaaaa :o :o :o   (you know......) that is button rifled and has a cheaper stock than the ADL wears.    the hammer-forged barrel in the Remington, the excellent Model 700 action, the iron sights, all add up to a better value.    why bother with a genuinely cheap rifle when you can own a Model 700 on a markdown?

Ace is also barking up the wrong tree with the idea of re-bedding the ADL.    i do the trigger jobs myself, including the better Wolff springs in the trigger group of the Model 700 which allow a lower pull weight without compromising sear engagement.   however, i wouldn't undo the pressure bedding of a Model 700.....not even on a bet.    it works too well.   how many of the posters on this site have found out, much to their chagrin, that removing the pressure point in the foreend of a Model 700 is a mistake?   how many more have to make the same blunder before it stops.    i recommend that a buyer loosen the action screws, re-torque 'em to a reasonable, relatively low torque, and then go shooting.   over-torqueing the screws can creater a problem with accuracy.     the screw out front of the trigger guard is torqued down first after the other one or two screws (depending upon the model) have been started with 'no' torque on them).    then the rear, tang screw is torqued.   the front screw is torqued a little more than the rear, tang screw.

just my experienced opinion,

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2007, 02:00:35 AM »
I agree with SS more often than not on the other than varmint weight Remington barrels they shoot better with the pressure point. I've been down that road myself and every time I took it out I had to put it back to get best accuracy. I no longer mess with them but just check to make sure the barrel isn't touching other than there and back near the chamber end. On the plastic stocks usually they don't as they come. On some wood you'll need to remove a burr or two.

I just adjust the trigger pull weight screw on mine and hardly ever feel a need to do anything more to the trigger. Different folks are more or less picky about triggers than me I'm sure. On varmint weight rifles the trigger is the only thing I've ever done on a Remington and never yet had one that couldn't get selected loads down to or under 1/2" for FIVE not three shots at 100 yards.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 02:40:34 AM »
The 700 adl is my alltime favorite rifle.I own 3 at the moment and many have come and gone over the years.They were all great shooters.If I had to choose between a savage or the remington 710 and the 700adl,no contest the 700 wins everytime.And that $50-$75 more than the 710 will be the best mony you ever spent!!
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2007, 03:19:51 AM »
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 04:20:37 AM »
Ilhunter...Our local Wally World has had some ADLs in Laminated stock/blued barrel, pretty good looking gun...I have seen them
in .270 and 30-06...Might want to check it our, I know you could go their website in the past to get info but I haven't looked
in a while...Good Luck

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 06:43:17 AM »
i believe they had a couple 30-06 and that would be the one i would get will have to go back and look maybe today i am not sure now comes another debate what rings scope and base for this rifle would be good don't want to spend a fortune but something decent.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 08:03:45 AM »
I think you will love the 700 ADL, and are making a very wise decision. Let me be the first to suggest Burris Signature rings, the ones with the synthetic inserts that take the worry out of mis-alinged rings, bases and such. After a lot of reading here on GB, and other places, I'm sold on them and are the only mounts I consider for a bolt gun. You can get these in the standard dovetail front/windage screw rear, or the double dovetail styles. I Like the Leupold bases better than the Burris bases though, the Leupold  just look better with their sculpted  edges than the Burris blocky squared bases. Don't scrimp on the optics too,  look at the Nikon Buckmasters, Elite 3200, Leupold VX-I or VX-II or similar quality of other makes as your minimum, and you won't have to "upgrade"  down the road. Look at putting another $200+ into the optis and mounts-
If it were me, I'd put Burris Signature double dovetail medium rings, Leupold double dovetail bases, either a Nikon or Leupold 3X9X40, and have a heck of an outfit.
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 08:33:33 AM »
thanks i am thinking that will be a good setup so after i get the rifle i will look into the scope and rings and mount maybe i will skip a few other purchases and get this first and then my C&R pistols that i want later i can get the shotgun for home defense that i want so rifle first other guns next waiting on C&R lisence anyway thanks for the help and the info you all have been a great help with this decision.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2007, 03:09:27 PM »
I have a ADL in .270 that was synthetic stock that i changed to a wood stock and love that gun ,also i left the pressure point at the front of the stock and it is a shooter.The ADL is a very good bolt gun.
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »
I agree on the adl, .I have a walnut and blued in a 270.....great gun...accurate..reliable.....blind magazine and all, I love it...
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2007, 02:23:37 AM »
I agree with SS more often than not on the other than varmint weight Remington barrels they shoot better with the pressure point. I've been down that road myself and every time I took it out I had to put it back to get best accuracy.

I just adjust the trigger pull weight screw on mine and hardly ever feel a need to do anything more to the trigger. Different folks are more or less picky about triggers than me I'm sure. On varmint weight rifles the trigger is the only thing I've ever done on a Remington and never yet had one that couldn't get selected loads down to or under 1/2" for FIVE not three shots at 100 yards.

it is true that i have seen some Rem's (two of my friends have' em) that use an aluminum bedding block that free-floats the barrel.   both of them are Tactical variants with heavy, 26"-long barrels.    they do not have a pressure-bedding point in the forearm.    i should have mentioned the difference between the two for those who are new/newer to the Model 700 addiction.   

interestingly enough, i have seen one of my friends acknowledge that his ADL - Synthetic would sometimes outshoot his .223 Tactical-type Remington.    the ADL - Syn' was in .22-250.   the bullet he used was the 60 gr' Hornady spire point.    he gave the rifle to one of his younger brothers as a gift!   obviously he is a generous man.    (the .223 Tactical had good accuracy with light-weight 40 or 45 grain bullets that my buddy could not achieve with any heavier projectiles.)

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2007, 02:40:42 AM »
General Note to those who are confused about what models are free floating...

Of all the 700 varmint/heavy barreled models, the VLS is the only one that is meant to have the pressure point upfront.

All others have an H-S Precision stock that come with the alluminum bedding block, and when action/stock screws are properly torqued, the barrel should be free floating. If you have a VS, VSF, VS SF, VS SF II, Sendero, Sendero SF, Sendero SF II, LV SF, and there is a pressure point, it is Not supposed to be there. IF it shoots sub MOA, I wouldn't bother messing with it, unwlecomed pressure point or not.

Those H-S stocks can sneak thru with imperfections and in turn, users find their barrel isn't free floated 100%.

*I think the LV SF has a Bell & Carlson stock, so my above statement that all have an H-S is incorrect.

We can talk about free floating and bedding all day and night but if it shoots great, keep shooting! I fell into that trap 20 years ago and learned that if it's a .5" shooter, just leave it alone and enjoy.

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 04:51:33 PM »
i think i am going to go buy the gun tomorrow if they still have it this will be my all around rifle and my first bolt so i want a good one to start i will get a recoil pad and ammo to in all likely hood so i maybe owner of new rifle tomorrow if everything goes well thanks for all  your help you are all a great help.


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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 08:10:21 PM »
Hey Guys,

 In my Opinion, if it says Remington 700 ADL, BDL,OR ##L ON IT YOU CAN'T GO WRONG. I have 2. A3006 BDL and a 7mm Mag ADL.
I picked the 7mm in 1976 at a yard sale. Paid 285$ for the gun, Leapould VX2 3X9, carry case, 2 boxes of shells and a set of dies. People told me that the cops should be looking for me because I stole that deal. Well, 30 years later, I still have and will not part with it. The Remington 700 is my favorite model. JMHO

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2007, 12:05:24 PM »
i own both. they are shooters. i take the shotgun turkey hunting and its a all around gun. its in realtree camo and i bought it for $270 at walmart and the adl at a gunshop in town. both accurate and i got them cheap
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 03:20:54 PM »
I went to Walmart today and ended up leaving with a brand new Remington 700 ADL 30-06 (matte/synthetic).

The rifle was discounted down to $325 (which I believe was a great price.)

It gets better; Remington is currently offering rebates on all ADLs so I ended up getting an additional $30 dollars off, bringing the price of my new Remington 700 ADL to only $ 295.00! I couldn't pass the rifle up for that price.

My hunting buddy bought one in 270 Win.

I'm a happy camper!  ;D

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 03:42:44 PM »
i got my adl for 398 last year
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 04:08:01 PM »
Very good deal. I am still waiting for my $30.00 rebate on my SPS.  Dale
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2007, 04:34:17 PM »
i was suspose to do that on my shotgun but didn't it slipped my mind. i don't think i can do it now though
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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2007, 12:35:54 PM »
LP''

do you handload?    if so, you may like what my 700ADL in .30-06 shoots Very Well:  165 grain Rem' Core-Lokts with IMR 4320 like they were born for each other.   i use CCI-200's for primers.    IMR-4320 does not need a magnum primer.   

excellent choice on your purchase,

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2007, 04:26:33 PM »
LP''

do you handload?    if so, you may like what my 700ADL in .30-06 shoots Very Well:  165 grain Rem' Core-Lokts with IMR 4320 like they were born for each other.   i use CCI-200's for primers.    IMR-4320 does not need a magnum primer.   

excellent choice on your purchase,

ss'   

Thanks for the load advice Sheriff; I appreciate it.

I do reload, but, I don't have any IMR-4320. I do however, have IMR-4350 on hand!  ;)  My favorite load has been Sierra 165 HPBTs loaded on top of 57.0 grains of IMR-4350. I absolutely love the grand old 30-06.

BTW, I'm a sheriff's office lieutenant myself (almost 25 years).

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Re: rem 700 adl
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2007, 03:02:29 PM »
LeadPoison'

i guess that now you've given up some information about your law enforcement career i can better understand your 'handle'!  :o     it's a great one.

i work as a safety and claims related employee for a public service agency in n.e. ohio.   very interesting to have contact with so many LEA's!   i've met a lot of great people that way.    my compliments, Lieutenant!     

IMR-4350!   what a great propellant for both velocity and accuracy in so many cartridges.   i've used it with great results; but got the IMR-4320 at some very good prices.   once i found how well '4320' meters i was hooked on it.    the recoil pulse isn't too bad with it either.   BUT, i do understand how your propellant-of-choice could easily be '4350'.

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