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President Bush Issues Executive Order
« on: August 18, 2007, 08:45:37 AM »
President Bush Issues Executive Order Facilitating
Hunting Opportunities And Wildlife Conservation
President George W. Bush today issued an executive order directing Federal agencies to work more diligently to facilitate the expansion and enhancement of hunting opportunities and the management of game species and their habitat.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 01:41:40 PM »
I wish he would use this same method of by passing congress and the Constitution, to shut down our borders, and stop the flow of illegals. Priorities.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 02:19:00 PM »
I wish he would use this same method of by passing congress and the Constitution, to shut down our borders, and stop the flow of illegals. Priorities.
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So, does that mean you aren't in favor of expanding hunting opportunities?   ::)
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 02:59:03 PM »
Maybe that will get US
Fish and Wildlife off their rears and start managing wildlife up here since the took over management of all the federal lands which is 75% of Alaska.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 03:01:25 PM »
Does that mean theres a bounty on illegals??? Bag limits, posession limits??? POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 03:18:24 PM »
I gotta feelin the US Fish and Wildlife are more busy than we may think.   They donated a new police car to our County Sheriff Department, and they always seem to be close by during police raids.   On the one hand if I were a policeman, I'd want all the help I could get, but on the other hand I wonder why they are being so generous to our local law enforcement? ???
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 03:59:40 PM »
I gotta feelin the US Fish and Wildlife are more busy than we may think.   They donated a new police car to our County Sheriff Department, and they always seem to be close by during police raids.   On the one hand if I were a policeman, I'd want all the help I could get, but on the other hand I wonder why they are being so generous to our local law enforcement? ???

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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 06:26:42 PM »
Executive Order: Facilitation of Hunting Heritage and Wildlife Conservation

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. The purpose of this order is to direct Federal agencies that have programs and activities that have a measurable effect on public land management, outdoor recreation, and wildlife management, including the Department of the Interior and the Department of Agriculture, to facilitate the expansion and enhancement of hunting opportunities and the management of game species and their habitat.

Sec. 2. Federal Activities. Federal agencies shall, consistent with agency missions:
(a) Evaluate the effect of agency actions on trends in hunting participation and, where appropriate to address declining trends, implement actions that expand and enhance hunting opportunities for the public;
(b) Consider the economic and recreational values of hunting in agency actions, as appropriate;
© Manage wildlife and wildlife habitats on public lands in a manner that expands and enhances hunting opportunities, including through the use of hunting in wildlife management planning;
(d) Work collaboratively with State governments to manage and conserve game species and their habitats in a manner that respects private property rights and State management authority over wildlife resources;
(e) Establish short and long term goals, in cooperation with State and tribal governments, and consistent with agency missions, to foster healthy and productive populations of game species and appropriate opportunities for the public to hunt those species;
(f) Ensure that agency plans and actions consider programs and recommendations of comprehensive planning efforts such as State Wildlife Action Plans, the North American Waterfowl Management Plan, and other range-wide management plans for big game and upland game birds;
(g) Seek the advice of State and tribal fish and wildlife agencies, and, as appropriate, consult with the Sporting Conservation Council and other organizations, with respect to the foregoing Federal activities.

Sec. 3. North American Wildlife Policy Conference. The Chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality (Chairman) shall, in coordination with the appropriate Federal agencies and in consultation with the Sporting Conservation Council and in cooperation with State and tribal fish and wildlife agencies and the public, convene not later than 1 year after the date of this order, and periodically thereafter at such times as the Chairman deems appropriate, a White House Conference on North American Wildlife Policy (Conference) to facilitate the exchange of information and advice relating to the means for achieving the goals of this order.

Sec. 4. Recreational Hunting and Wildlife Resource Conservation Plan. The Chairman shall prepare, consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations, in coordination with the appropriate Federal agencies and in consultation with the Sporting Conservation Council, and in cooperation with State and tribal fish and wildlife agencies, not later than 1 year following the conclusion of the Conference, a comprehensive Recreational Hunting and Wildlife Conservation Plan that incorporates existing and ongoing activities and sets forth a 10 year agenda for fulfilling the actions identified in section 2 of this order.

Sec. 5. Judicial Review. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, trust responsibility, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE,
August 16, 2007.

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Re: President Bush Issues Executive Order
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 04:16:04 AM »
How many has he issued?
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2007, 07:17:22 AM »
For the love of Pete and Klinton did not? He wrote them like Candy and most were against us. Bush tries to do something right and you  think it is a UN plot. I hate the UN but I do not see their fingerprints in this unless you can offer concrete proof. Hell the Feds Regulate things now look at the Migratory Bird issue we do that with the cooperation of Mexico and Canada.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2007, 07:38:04 AM »
Well said jh45gun. 
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 12:10:09 PM »
How many has he issued?
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Too many...here's a list just for 2007.  Some good reading here.  Of course he doesn't write them all...the fourth branch of government does most of them.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/


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Wow, that's too many!!  :o :o

To many no doubt, in fact it was so many that Pres. Bush wrote just over 1/2 as many as Clinton, yea I could not resist checking!!!!  :o :o :o
And even when a big part of Bush's was due to raghead issues which Clinton did not have because he thought the first attack at WTC & the bombing of the USS Cole was just good ole dedicated Muslims having a good time, he still wrote so, soooo many more.

I did know for sure that when one here mentions such situation as this Clinton will not be mentioned.

I would not vote for Bush again because of the Border & the Liberal way we are fighting this war, I guess I need to read closer this EO & see what the Bush hating fuss is about. I have said it before & I will say it again, a few act like closet Dems here, I don't think you are, but the behavior reminds me of such.

I do know that NO SOCIALIST DEMONCRAP would have signed such an order or do ANYTHING to promote hunting in ANY
way & I also know that everyone knows it.

It is also known to all that Bush let the Sunset on the KLINTON Ban & NO SOCIALIST DEMONCRAP will protect gun rights in ANY way.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 12:48:17 PM »
Regardless of whom wrote the most executive orders, or what the executive orders were for. They (the executive orders) are STILL A WAY TO BYPASS CONGRESS AND THE CONSTITUTION. THAT SHOULD BOTHER EVERYONE. HUNTER, FISHERMAN, OR NOT.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 12:54:02 PM »
Does any one actually believe GW wrote this or any other EO. The only part he wrote was the signature.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2007, 02:40:09 PM »
Regardless of whom wrote the most executive orders, or what the executive orders were for. They (the executive orders) are STILL A WAY TO BYPASS CONGRESS AND THE CONSTITUTION. THAT SHOULD BOTHER EVERYONE. HUNTER, FISHERMAN, OR NOT.

I do agree with that, I don't see where the founders talked about those.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2007, 03:12:23 PM »
Dee, are you saying that the congress couldn't void this or any EO if it chose?  Forget the BS, forget the Bush bashing, a simple yes or no. Can you handle that?
Do you not think that he could have had this attached to a bill as an amendment and walked thru the house and senate as easy as pie?  At what cost?  In time and money?  But, of course, since it's something 'Bush did, it's bad.  What a bunch of nit pickin' crap. 

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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2007, 06:34:59 PM »
TM7 two words to throw out your UN theory. JOHN BOLTON!  If Bush was soft on the UN he would have never appointed BOLTON to the UN as our Ambassador. He diid so because he knew Bolton would be a good watch dog and not let the UN get by with any crap.  Too bad the Senate would not support him.  >:(
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2007, 02:08:38 AM »
Boy, poor old George W can't get a break whatever he does.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2007, 02:53:29 AM »
Just maybe,MAYBE, old GW figured this was a good bill, didn't want to wait 6 month's to a year, while congress sat around with a thumb up it's butt, debating weather the EPA, or some other govt. organization had to stick their overpaid noses into it. Some of you guys would complain if you were handed a gold brick and had to carry it to the bank. OHH, it's so heavy!!Do I have to carry it so far. Bill Clinton put a time limit on how long a person could get federal assistance, and I believe that was done by a E.O. Don't remember him getting bashed to much over that one. Some of you guys just will not give credit, when credit is due. -gypsyman
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2007, 03:01:54 AM »
The President is the executor; that means he gets to issue directives to the various branches of government that are under his direction.  I remember when President Clinton was issuing orders; the news media thought he was just brilliant and he was doing the peoples work.

I'm still waiting for the executive order that mandates that all concealed carry permits be legalized throughout the country like drivers licenses.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2007, 07:45:35 AM »
Now couple This with the REAL ID gimmick... No REAL ID, NO Hunting cause the Feds will have Total Control of it.

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 03:02:59 AM »
I don't think we'll have to worry about no hunting order's. Even the politician that never hunted, can understand the meaning of the word revenue. Billions of dollars given up voluntarily every year buy sportsman. Somehow, every politician understands the word ''money''!!-gypsyman
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 03:13:25 AM »
President BUSH or any other president can order anything they want but the house has to come up with the $$$$$$ to fund any research ( that always comes first ) then making a plan ( # 2 ) then more and more red tape !
at least we hunters got lip service (  that always comes first ) !
I like president BUSH , but really wish he would spend his effort on the war and borders !
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 12:06:20 PM »
Dee, are you saying that the congress couldn't void this or any EO if it chose?  Forget the BS, forget the Bush bashing, a simple yes or no. Can you handle that?
Do you not think that he could have had this attached to a bill as an amendment and walked thru the house and senate as easy as pie?  At what cost?  In time and money?  But, of course, since it's something 'Bush did, it's bad.  What a bunch of nit pickin' crap. 

beemanbeme your going to work yourself into a stroke or heart attack. I don't believe I mentioned Bush. I said REGARDLESS OF WHO WROTE THE EOs THEY BYPASS CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE. KEY PHRAISE HERE, NOW PAY ATTENTION: REGARDLESS OF "WHOM" WROTE THE MOST EOs OR WHAT THEY WERE ABOUT. Can you handle that beemanbeme? Have you thought about applying for a job as a body guard for ole GW, ya sure are sensitive about him? ::)
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2007, 01:50:26 PM »
Dee, no danger of that. I worked with too many squeaky wheels before I retired to let some cyberspace babble bother me.  Now pay attention, on a grand scale, a EO is a tool with which the Prez can conduct the business of the United States.  Kinda like a CEO buying a box of pencils without clearing it thru the board of directors first.  His purchases, of course, are subject to overview and accountability by the board.
I don't guess you could answer my question with a simple yes or no.

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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2007, 02:59:51 PM »
Dee, no danger of that. I worked with too many squeaky wheels before I retired to let some cyberspace babble bother me.  Now pay attention, on a grand scale, a EO is a tool with which the Prez can conduct the business of the United States.  Kinda like a CEO buying a box of pencils without clearing it thru the board of directors first.  His purchases, of course, are subject to overview and accountability by the board.
I don't guess you could answer my question with a simple yes or no.

Your question is not a simple yes or no question. You are addressing an issue where the congress is as gutless, prideful, and corrupt as most of practices SUCH AS EOs, they and the president participate in.
The fact remains, that an EO, BYPASSES CONGRESS AND THE CONSTITUTION. We elect our reps, to represent us. We elect our president to do the same. NOT FIGURE OUT WAYS TO IGNORE THE LAW OF THE LAND WHICH IS THE CONSTITUTION.  You compare this country and CONSTITUTION to a company with a CEO. AMERICA ISN'T and the pres AIN'T NO CEO. HE IS ELECTED TO SERVE US, NOT US HIM. AND HE AND CONGRESS ARE NOT REPING US. They are doing what THEY want to do, and telling us what we want to hear. That little move on the hunting land is NOTHING compared to the problems this country has that he REFUSES to address. It is eye candy to get the blind pro gun people lined back up behind him. His ratings are at an all time low because of his poor performance on such IMPORTANT issues as IMMIGRATION. A few thousand acres of land to hunt on will not mean much when the economy ends up in the toilet. But hey! This is a Instant Gratification country now. Let go for the entertainment portion of the show and to hell with the security issues. In that case. GW, what a great guy. To hell with the Constitution, LET'S HUNT.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2007, 03:41:04 AM »
If the USA was a company it would have failed years ago ! how many companies work in the red for decades and survive ?
It is a total waste of time to compare the USA to anything , when you figure it out you will see we are writing the book as we go ! And if you ain't nervous you should be , we could be one vote away from extinction !
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2007, 11:21:41 AM »
I didn't think you could.   ;D  Nice dance. 

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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2007, 01:11:01 PM »
I didn't think you could.   ;D  Nice dance. 

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