Recommended BF websites from a "non-expert"

[Telahnay's g'son]

The following sites are suggested for those seeking information about this mystery;

www.alabamabigfoot.com

The main two guys on this site appear to be sincerely genuine and lacking the ego problems evident with so many other site owners.


www.bigfootforums.com  (BFF)

This is perhaps the largest such website and you'll find a ton of info as well as divergent opinions, viewpoints, etc.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/55349/   (Timberline Bigfoot Group)

Pro-kill and make no bones about it.....still willing to share info and work with people despite a few unpleasant encounters with dudes toting other agendas.


www.texasbigfoot.com   www.texasbigfoot.org  (Texas BF research center)

Good resource for info indigenous to the NE Texas area.


www.bfro.net

Despite the controversy surrounding some of their claims (scientific research, etc.) as well as those of their "expedition" results it has some good R&D database info especially on NA legends, etc.




While not an exclusive listing these are probably good resource areas to check.

[Graybeard]

You omitted the best. I know the guy who owns it. He's a Bigfoot skeptic but is willing to believe if proof is ever offered or one is seen. 

http://www.gbofreeforums.info/Bigfootstudy/

[powderman]

You omitted the best. I know the guy who owns it. He's a Bigfoot skeptic but is willing to believe if proof is ever offered or one is seen. 

http://www.gbofreeforums.info/Bigfootstudy/

  . POWDERMAN. 

[Telahnay's g'son]

Here is the (2000) newspaper article on the man (Tim "Tug" Humphrey) who allegedly shot a BF and he is NOT the one (his brother, Michael) who has the website;



Tulsa World, Tulsa, Oklahoma
Bigfoot believer has a bear of a task ahead
Capturing Kiamichi Sasquatch is no easy feat

By Rod Walton, January 29, 2000
 
 
 HONOBIA, Oklahoma-- For anyone who doubts that he really saw Sasquatch lurking in the Kiamichi Mountains, local believer Tim Humphreys has a cure-all for their skepticism.
"We'll just tie deer liver around their neck and come in the woods in the dark for a night," the longtime woodsman said. "And I promise you they'll be a believer before the morning."

It may take something so dramatic to convince many folks that there is, indeed, a Bigfoot in Little Dixie, but the experiences of Humphreys and several other locals have more and more people wondering if the fabled, reclusive -- and possibly fictitious -- monster has migrated into southeastern Oklahoma. From Honobia to Smithville, from Battiest to Octavia, the word is out. Bigfoot is making tracks, or at least that's what many locals think.

"A lot of them think it's a big joke," said Linda Martin, who runs Clancy's Country Store, a popular gathering place in Honobia on the LeFlore and Pushmataha county line. While most people would scoff and laugh at the notion of a hirsute, manlike critter roaming the Sooner State, Martin isn't laughing. She said she has seen the footprints, 15 inches long and 7 inches wide.

She also claims to have heard a tape recording, revealing a whistling-like sound that resembles an elk's call, only louder. "It's pretty believable," Martin said. She also said she has heard the stories from Humphreys and the others who claim to have seen Sasquatch with their own eyes. They describe a tall, hairy creature who resembles a man more than the typical ape.

And they've gotten mankind riled up around the Kiamichis. A Poteau paper reported that Smithville residents held a town meeting to discuss the sightings. State forester Jim Langdon said his rangers have been inundated with calls from locals who are curious about the sightings. "This is a little wilder than normal," said Langdon, who has lived in the Kiamichi area since 1982.

Previous to these alleged sightings, any so-called proof of Sasquatch's existence focused mainly on western reports ranging from northern California to British Columbia. In 1967, a Yakima, Wash., man named Roger Patterson attracted international attention with a 16 mm film of a female Bigfoot taken in northern California.

The last reported sighting of a tall, hairy, manlike creature roaming in Oklahoma was in 1971 in El Reno. But that beast was dubbed the "Abominable Chicken Man" because of its hunger for a farmer's chickens. The worldwide legend surrounding the mysterious primate, also known as the Abominable Snowman, has inspired movies and countless theories. But until now, an "actual" Sasquatch has not been reported in Oklahoma. Until Tim Humphreys.

A lifelong resident of the Kiamichis, Humphreys said he started noticing the strange screaming and odd-looking creatures in the woods about three years ago.

This winter, though, Bigfoot supposedly got up close and personal with the Humphreys. One creature went so far as to stare through a window of the family's home, "scaring the hell out of" Humphreys' 3-year-old daughter, he said. "They had been beating on my house, scaring my kids playing in the woods, yelling and screaming and scratching," Humphreys said. "They spilled meat out of the freezer."

The closest contact may have come in the woods, though, for Humphreys said he saw four at one time and shot one of them. Proof of a body? Not so lucky -- according to store owner Martin, surviving Bigfoots conveniently carry off and bury their own. Pictures? Humphreys has them, but he said he is not ready to produce them for the world, not even the Tulsa World.

"People are going to say what they want to say; I'm not in this for the recognition," Humphreys said. "I didn't go out looking for them." The curious, though, have come looking for Humphreys since he went public with his Sasquatch sightings. Several private investigators traveled into the woods with him and also saw the beasts, he said, but hard proof is, well, hard to come by.

So the rumors fly faster than an Abominable Snowman off a Himalayan cliff.

State wildlife biologist Mike Sams has heard the whisperings about a giant "Stairmaster on Winding Stair Mountain," and has even been the subject of a rumor or two himself.

"The latest rumor has me shooting him," said Sams, who admitted that he has never had Sasquatch in his gun sight. "And apparently I can't shoot well enough to kill one. I just wounded him." Local tales about the Horror of Honobia won't die, either. Local resident Leroy Williams said he hasn't seen the beast himself, but he knows people who say they have. "They say that at night they've seen the eyes glowing," Williams said.

State forester John Clark said he believes that the beast Humphreys and others supposedly saw may have been a black bear, which are fairly common in the Kiamichis. And, although he doubted he existence of a Bigfoot in his back yard, Clark said he knows that something strange made quite an impression on Humphreys."It's spooked him, whatever it was," Clark said.

Martin said a close friend observed a deer kill allegedly left behind by a Sasquatch. The telltale sign, she said, is that the deer carcass was basically whole except for a missing liver.

Humphreys warned that Bigfoot will end up worse than that if its kind makes another foray onto his land. "All the fear is gone out of me," he said. "I know what they look like. I know their tricks. They better stay away from me." For those who would love to see living proof of a longtime legend, though, the hope is that Sasquatch, if it actually exists, might someday come close enough to be filmed or captured.

"I just try to stay out of it until there's some proof," Langdon, the area forester, said. When it comes to Sasquatch sightings, however, proof isn't half the fun. The story is. And Humphreys is certainly sticking to his story. "I'm not calling around trying to convince people," he said. "People are asking me, and I'm telling what I've seen."


© Tulsa World

 

[Ray Ford]

T's.g.,

Thanks for the postings: I've heard, and heard, and heard, about Humphreys' encounter, but this is the first time I've actually seen an account of it in print.  But this news account doesn't really contain that much detail about his run-in with the big hairy guys.

As you know, our--were there not four of us that night--excursion into Humphreys' area didn't produce a Bigfoot encounter. Just bears.  I keep planning to go back.  It is a good camping trip, and an encounter would be a good addition to the camping experience--encounter with bears or whatever.

By the way, do you, a "non-expert," know what an expert on any subject is--according to me?  It is someone who knows enough about something to know how much he doesn't know.  Holding that definition allows me to be skeptical about anyone who holds himself out as an expert and claims to know everything about something/anything. Of course, I'm not an expert on experts.

[Telahnay's g'son]

T's.g.,

Thanks for the postings: I've heard, and heard, and heard, about Humphreys' encounter, but this is the first time I've actually seen an account of it in print.  But this news account doesn't really contain that much detail about his run-in with the big hairy guys.

As you know, our--were there not four of us that night--excursion into Humphreys' area didn't produce a Bigfoot encounter. Just bears.  I keep planning to go back.  It is a good camping trip, and an encounter would be a good addition to the camping experience--encounter with bears or whatever.

By the way, do you, a "non-expert," know what an expert on any subject is--according to me?  It is someone who knows enough about something to know how much he doesn't know.  Holding that definition allows me to be skeptical about anyone who holds himself out as an expert and claims to know everything about something/anything. Of course, I'm not an expert on experts.

The brother (Michael) has apparently told several versions of the incident and probably is why he doesn't wish to get pinned down with memorializing it in print plus he supposedly wasn't even there when the "shot" was fired.

[Telahnay's g'son]

From a "non-recommended" website:

2007 GCBRO Annual BBQ
by BigfootHunter (Bobby Hamilton)
Jim has asked me to change the date of the BBQ, due to the opening of deer season, being a little earlier than anticipated. And not knowing the amount of hunters who may be in and or around the woods is a big safety concern. So for the safety of our friends, we have changed the date for the GCBRO BBQ to a week earlier, than initially planned.

The new date for the BBQ is going to be Saturday October 20, 2007.
Most will come in on Friday the 19th. And we will all be leaving on Sunday the 21st.

Below is the Official Release for this event.

The Official 2007 GCBRO BBQ is scheduled for Saturday October 20, 2007.

We will be eating around 1:00 PM give or take a few minutes. It’s hard to put an exact time on properly prepared BBQ.

Anyway, here is the setup we are doing this year. Everybody who plans to attend, needs to reserve their place at the BBQ. “How do I reserve my spot?” you may be asking!

Okay, to reserve your spot, you first need to send me an e-mail addressed to; BBQ@GCBRO.COM

I will then send you the various methods you can use to submit your reservation fee.

The fee’s mentioned above for the BBQ are as follows;

GCBRO Members - $10 each for the meal.

Non-Members - $15 each for the meal. (This is for the BBQ only. Non-Members who want to spend the entire weekend need to be sure and read the additional information below)

The above price is for the BBQ only on the day of the event. However we do have people who are wanting to come spend the entire weekend with us at Monster Central.
Myself as well as Monster Hunter will be there beginning Friday October 19th, thru Sunday October 21th.

We are going to be revealing some of the latest information, as well as giving tours through Monster Central, so you can see where all this action has been taking place, as well as hear the real story about things, from the people who have experienced it first hand.

We will be giving field tips, and advice from actual findings and experience, that will also assist you in your own research. This is information that was gained from ACTUAL hands on field research, not something that was gained from reading a book or from a posting on some web site.

For those who want to spend the entire weekend at Monster Central and not just a few hours in the middle of the day, here is what Monster Hunter and myself have came up with on this.

GCBRO Members – Free for members, and you are not only welcomed, but you are encouraged to join us if at all possible, just let me know your plans when you send in your request for the information to make your reservation.

Non Members – Well, folks, I hate to say this, but we have had a lot of people in the past, come and use, as well as ABUSE our kind hospitality at no extra expense to themselves. And then use our information for themselves to appear as the all knowing Bigfoot Guru, and then turn around and slam us afterwards. So here’s the deal for Non-Members, if you want to spend the weekend at Monster Central, we are allowing it this year. However there will be a fee of $100 per person/couple. We set it at $100 per person, but if your spouse wants to join you, then it will be included in the price. This price will also include the BBQ Dinner that is set for Saturday afternoon.

Everybody will need to bring their camping gear ( or make reservations in nearby towns at one of the local motels) your research gear and any food or drinks that you may need for a weekend of camping. We are only supplying the BBQ meal for this event. Any other food or drinks are supplied by you the visitors to Monster Central.

Any evidence you find while at Monster Central is yours to keep. So be sure to bring, your cameras (still and video), sound recorders, plaster, night vision, and any other piece of field equipment you may use in your research. You never know what you will find or see while at Monster Central. This area has proven itself to be the hottest known location for Bigfoot activity. Others may scoff at this, but the fact remains, we have had more people have activity in this one area, than any other publicly known area.

Folks, this is a BBQ and a weekend Campout Gathering for those who want to attend. It is not the Hilton, or some other comfortable place to kick your feet up and relax. There is no running water, and no bathroom facilities. You will need to bring all your luxuries, that you may need. We have plenty of woods for those bathroom breaks. I would personally suggest one of those $20 portable toilets from Wal Mart to make it as comfortable as possible.

It is possible that even though this is later in October, the temperatures could still be pretty hot, and the nights could be fairly cool, so bring the proper clothing for both.

Also this is NOT a GCBRO Hunt.

There will be NO hunting during this event. If you want to sit out in some of the areas, that can be arranged, but it will not be with a loaded firearm, but instead a camera, and or recording equipment, for all of our visitors safety. We are not saying that you cannot bring a firearm. If you do, it will be left in your vehicle and not exposed for any of the children that may be attending, or others to have access.

We want everybody to have a safe and productive weekend, and enjoy their visit as much as possible.



Then.......




2007 GCBRO Annual BBQ
by BigfootHunter (Bobby Hamilton)
Those wishing to attend the 2007 GCBRO Annual BBQ, needs to have their payments for their reservations made by the first of October. After this date, and for those who are thinking that they can just show up at the event and then make their payment at the event, they will be denied access to the event all together.

Alot of people are showing interest, yet very few have sent in their payment.

If you plan to attend this event, you MUST make your payment for your reservation no later than October 1st, to attend this event.


Thanks.


The latest......


All you procrastinator's...
by Monster Hunter
Guaranteed you will have a good time at the BBQ...last week my youngest was walking along the creek where a dozier had been making a fire lane...found a nice three toed Monster track he could have cast...now just think...had you been here you could have had a track of a three toed Monster to take home and show the family...

C'mon down or up depending on where you live...plenty of food and drink along with the camping and camp fire stories...might even see a Monster or at least hear one scream...






Hurry, Hurry, Hurry, get your tickets here! 

Maybe, he'll let you do a "paid hunt" from his "luxury box" tower stand on Monster Central BF Safari Outdoors, Ltd. ?

[Graybeard]

Is this "Bigfoot Central" on public or private land? Is there public land nearby if on private?

Sure sounds like they want folks to spend their money but it also sounds like not many are spending yet. I reckon that until I personally see, smell, hear one I'll remain a skeptic.

[Telahnay's g'son]

It's private (~1500 acres) that I understand his aunt actually owns.

[powderman]

It's private (~1500 acres) that I understand his aunt actually owns.

No big deal, maybe it will flood and ya can trespass there too. POWDERMAN. 

[NONYA]

  ROFL!!! G1!!!!

[Telahnay's g'son]

It's private (~1500 acres) that I understand his aunt actually owns.

No big deal, maybe it will flood and ya can trespass there too. POWDERMAN. 

Do you realize that ~47% of ALL your posts' actual content consist of the  or  icons?   



Maybe, I need some direction with the legal definition of "trespass".

Is it driving a watercraft on a navigable stream as defined by the laws of your state?

Is it driving a vehicle down a property line (also called a "road" by some parties) even though you have secured permission from said property owner?

OR


Is it driving your ATV on federal property in direct violation of existing (and posted via signage) statutes?

Is it driving your ATV and/or instructing your lease hunters to freely hunt upon your neighbor's adjoining property even though said property is clearly posted against such encroachment?

Is it driving your vehicle/ATV down on your neighbors property (even though you call it a "road") in spite of the (alleged) fact said neighbor has a Protective Order against you because you issued physical threats against him?

Sounds, like YOU, BM & DO went to the same law school?



BTW, the three largest deer (14pt. & two 8 pt.) were taken on this neighbors adjoining property by a lease hunter and NOT on the actual lease land.  How would I know this?  The guy that pulled the trigger in all 3 instances was one of the 6 guys I brought to the lessor (deer were shot after I disassociated w/lessor) as our kids go to school together and he conveyed this info to me at a school function.

[Telahnay's g'son]

More Jerry Springer scenario:

Rob   Post subject: Honobia Bigfoot FestivalPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:47 pm 
 
 
 

Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:27 pm
Posts: 72
Location: Ocoee, Florida  I just now went and looked at the Honobia Festival site for the first time. Wow! You guys are lucky to have such a great event so near to where you live. From the pictures it looks like a beautiful natural spot.

I also looked at the entire area from Google Maps. It looks extremely hilly, or even mountainous, with very concentric ridges everywhere. It almost looks like small canyons and valleys created by a network of small rivers. Very interesting and rugged looking terrain.

Can someone who has been there tell me more about it?

_________________
Rob Rutherford, M. Ed.

 
 
Well Rob, I understand that one of the "premier" BF researchers is going to do a live demonstration up in the mountains wherein he ties up his teenage daughter to a tree complete with pherenome & undergarments spread around for the full effect.  Also, to gain maximum benefit from the experience suggested prerequisite is to view the original (1930's) King Kong movie!

[Ray Ford]

It's private (~1500 acres) that I understand his aunt actually owns.

No big deal, maybe it will flood and ya can trespass there too. POWDERMAN. 

Powderman,

This thread, up to your post, was informative and without acrimony.  I liked it that way.

T's.g. has been accused of "baiting" Bulletmaker--and maybe/probably he has.  But here, it seems to me that you are "baiting" him.  My suggestion to him, and B.M, is to remember that ignoring "bait" is the best way to avoid getting caught up/shot up. 

Who said it?  "Couldn't we all just get along."

[NONYA]

That was John Lennon,he got shot in the head with a .38,shows you how far that wish will get you.

[Telahnay's g'son]

That was John Lennon,he got shot in the head with a .38,shows you how far that wish will get you.

It was Rodney King and he's back in jail.

[NONYA]

Shows how far back your memory goes....

[Melissa]

Actually it was John Lennon that said "All you need is love".

Rodney King said "Cant we all get along".

[NONYA]

John Lennon said "give peace a chance" in his lyrics and in a speech he gave to a graduating college crowd he said "cant we all just get a long?",dont any of you watch A&E?

[Telahnay's g'son]

You omitted the best. I know the guy who owns it. He's a Bigfoot skeptic but is willing to believe if proof is ever offered or one is seen. 

http://www.gbofreeforums.info/Bigfootstudy/

FYI,

Telahnay's g'son
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Ruthie wrote:
Just being nosy here. What actually started this errrr pi$$in contest? I have been reading back and forth around the different forums and have never been able to pin-point what started all of this.
How can one person get under the skin of so many people? It appears you have been able to bug at least a dozen or so.
 


Ruthie,

With the caveat that I'm not perfect by any stretch my "problem" has been to basically speak the plain truth to the best of my ability.

Pointing out the host of charlatans, hustlers, liars, frauds & wannabes in the so-called BF researcher realm has proven to be rather unnerving to several of these individuals.

You only have to look at the visciousness of their attacks (especially on the KBR & MABRC websites) as evidence that what I've said is truthful otherwise, why would they have gone to such lengths to disparage my character?

All they've been able to accomplish is a campaign of character assassination instead of disproving the assertions I've made that started the firestorm.

The four with the most venom are Darren Lee, Randy Harrington, Jim Lansdale & Michael Humphreys along with their assorted lapdogs that piled on once the frenzy commenced.

Like I stated above IF there wasn't truth contained in my comments then WHY such a vitriolic reaction?
 

[powderman]

tg. Well now, good golly gee. I don't seem to know Ruthie, or any of the other 4 folks you mentioned. Am I to assume that you are entertaining us again with the goings on at another board??? Won't they let you tattle over there??? I ask again, Why do you bring this over here??? Maybe I should visit over there to see how big a spanking they give you. POWDERMAN. 

[NONYA]

He just uses GBO as a backdoor flaming board to carry on his daily drama queen affair with the other BF "hunters",its obvious to me he cant get away with it there so he uses GBO to do it.