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super redhawk 44 mag
« on: August 25, 2007, 02:02:02 AM »
i was just reading handloader magazine and it there is a load recomendation of 24 grs oh 110 with a 300gr xtp
crimped in the lower crimp groove,he then went on to say he took the charge up 25 grs of h110.
i believe that to be a bit of a warm load.has anyone tried this load?? additionally the gun used was a
a super redhawk ,in fact he said to limit this load to the redhawk/super redhawk and the freedom arms revolvers.
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2007, 05:56:11 AM »
I DONT and WONT try any load that is on the internet and WONT recomed any load to anyone, PERIOD that is what loading manuals are for.   Not to sound like a smart a## but that only taking safety first.   JIM

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2007, 06:05:51 AM »
I don't know how he managed to handle 25 grains of H110 as that's a pretty fierce load and more than any manual has listed.

I loaded up some 240 grain XTP with a tad under that amount for my Ruger SBH and it was more than I could handle. Had to back mine down a few grains.
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 06:11:33 AM »
The hottest load I've tried or am willing to try with that bullet is 22.5 grains and yes that's ONLY if crimped in the lower cannelure to give more case capacity. Even that is a pretty hot load. I think 24 is excessive and 25 is insane.

I had a TC Contender .44 magnum come apart in my hands using 24.0 grains under a 240 grain in a S&W case. That case just had a smaller capacity than the others I was using and it blew that strong TC barrel apart.


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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2007, 08:39:58 AM »
thanks, i shoot a 240xtp with 24 grs,and that is max for the manuals,i usually cut that back if and when i shoot the
300s my load of powder will be sustantially less. of course on whitetails and paper punching i've always hung to 240s or 250s.dan
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2007, 08:56:38 AM »
That does sound kinda high. Only shot 2 different loads in my 44 mag. Super Redhawk. Taget ammo is Speer 240 lswc with 7.0 gr. Unique & the other is Hornady 240 gr. xtp with 23.8 gr. H110 & found it's very consistent with them so far.

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2007, 01:32:12 PM »
Is h-110 = to h4227?

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2007, 04:50:35 PM »
h110 and 4227 are close, but not identical. 

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2007, 05:01:31 PM »
I used to load 25 gr. H110 behind a 240 xtp, which gave me 1500 fps out of my 7.5 inch barrel.   It was a hot load.  I can't imagine substituting a 300 grainer.  I should add that this was in a SRH.

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2007, 05:51:11 PM »
Is h-110 = to h4227?


NO they are totally and completely different. There is not even a REMOTE similarity between them. They do have somewhat similar burn rates but other than that have about as much in common as cats and dogs.


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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2007, 01:58:13 AM »
Is h-110 = to h4227?

H-110 and W-296 are the same.
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2007, 02:08:41 PM »
Ok is mag primer the recomended primer for h-4227?

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2007, 04:14:06 PM »
I'm beginning to think mag primers are something to consider for use in sub-freezing weather, as long as the load was developed with them. 

It's starting to occur to me that if I can hit a deer in the chest cavity with 240-300 grains going  at least 900 fps when it hits, I'm going to have a dead critter.  So  I strive to load to that end at my max range which is probably not much more than 50 yards.  Move the bullet another 2-300 fps, & the only difference is that recoil increases, I practice less, and my max range decreases.  The game animal doesn't seem to die with more determination.  I'm not an expert or even close; so maybe I'm wrong??.
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2007, 12:35:00 PM »
RE-read Brian's reply.  He did specify a bullet with dual cannelures (don't have the article with me) seated in the rear cannelure for use in the Redhawks and Freedom Arms only.

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 05:22:24 AM »
RE-read Brian's reply.  He did specify a bullet with dual cannelures (don't have the article with me) seated in the rear cannelure for use in the Redhawks and Freedom Arms only.

Layne Simpson had an article on this years ago, crimping in the back groove for Redhawks/Super Redhawks.
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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2007, 06:53:19 PM »
I believe the article said that the load(s) in question were about 10,000 psi over SAAMI limits.  I don't have the article infront of me either, but I thought it said 36,000 psi max, for the 44mag, which would make those around 46,000 psi.  That would be a handful.  I have a super redhawk in 44 mag, and with that bullet, seated to the rear crimp groove I've used 22.5 gr. of H110.  I thought that was a warm load, accurate and powerful, but I mostly shoot cast bullets these days.

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Re: super redhawk 44 mag
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2007, 11:38:49 AM »
There's always somebody out there who is going to stretch the envelope and I'm thankful for them as long as they SURVIVE and come around to tell us about it!  I got into heavy loads when I bought my first 454 Casull WAY BACK in the 1990's and it didn't take long to figure out that I was engaging in something quite foolish.  These days I stick to the book and normally keep my loads 1 gr. below max at the MOST. For you young bucks out there who just can't wait to go to the range and spend the afternoon blasting away with max loads, please be advised the day will come when your hand, wrist, and elbow will pay the price for it.  Nuff sed.
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