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[rockbilly]

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[jh45gun]

Did the petition thing a week or so ago it was emailed to me.

[SHOOTALL]

first i don't like illegals !
second how could 54 million be out of work ? look at the unemployment figures !
I run adds all the time , Locals very seldom apply , same for my competition !
just maybe they don't want a job !

[Sourdough]

I know here in Alaska the box stores can't get workers, no one wants to work for them.  Wages are too low, they only pay $11.00 an hour.  People will work high paying construction jobs ($35.00 to $45.00 an hour) thru the summer then draw unemployment during the winter.  I'm talking about college students and kids right out of high school.  They won't accept a lower paying job because it lowers their unemployment rate.  That's hard for me to accept since I never drew unemployment.

[SHOOTALL]

thats the point , employers can't get people born in the USA to work now ! America needs workers ! cut unemployment and welfare for those who can work and maybe we can get people to work for 11.00 !

[powderman]

thats the point , employers can't get people born in the USA to work now ! America needs workers ! cut unemployment and welfare for those who can work and maybe we can get people to work for 11.00 !

I'd be tickled to death to get $11 an hr, it would be a raise for me, I work for walmart. I work hard for what I get. We sent workers to 3 other walmart stores last month because they couldn't hire enough help. One store wanted to hire 60 more workers. Interview 20 people, eliminate 10, send 10 for drug test, 3 or 4 will pass. The ones hired don't last long. So much for the mexicans taking the jobs Americans don't want. POWDERMAN

[Graybeard]

I'm not sure I'd get out of bed for $11 an hour.  But then I am retired so don't have to. 

I retired back in September of '95 and was making a bit over $25 an hour at the time. Got no clue what the going rate is for the fellow on that job now but I'm sure it's between $35-$40 an hour at least and maybe more as they upgraded the job not long after I retired.

Of course if I could make $11 and hour for all the time I put in here at GBO I'd be rich. 

[SHOOTALL]

GB not sure what you did , but construction around here starts at 10-11 per hour for green help and goes to 30 for reg. plumbers, sheet metal workers , electricians etc. foreman ans superintent positions a bit more . i can't get kids out of high school to to show up ! i paid over a thousand dollars to put a want add in the local papers so far 12 people have called ! for 4 openings !

[jh45gun]

Heck I don't think I ever made 11 bucks an hour on a regular job unless it was when I was out in Washington state cutting shake bolts and we got paid not by the hour but what we cut that probably was over 11. I have cut pulp worked in the Restaurant and Bar buisness as a cook and a bartender and did odd laybor jobs. Drove Semi and Drove a bus and non of them jobs paid much. Even the job I had for a short time working on the section crew of a railroad only paid 5 bucks an hour. Only money I made that was over that was playing in a band. by the time I figured out travel time and set up and tear down time and actual playing time it probably came over 11 bucks an hour but that was more of a hobby than a job.

[Matt]

I really will not get out of bed for less than $75 an hour and you better have a couple of hours work or I might charge a $45 service call fee...

Matt

[Graybeard]

GB not sure what you did

Federal Civil Service at a local Army Depot. I spent my last 21 years in Quality Assurance and the last 19 in management. I retired as a GS-12. The guy who took my place got promoted to GS-13 less than two years after I retired when all folks in that job at all depots were upgraded.

Matt's pulling ya'll leg, he won't get out of bed before noon regardless.

[NYH1]

Matt's pulling ya'll leg, he won't get out of bed before noon regardless.

Sounds like me, well unless my father and I have something planned..........you know how that go's!   

[SHOOTALL]

I believe the illegals are coming to fill a void in the labor market , not to take jobs for the most part !its like blaming the drug dealer for the drug problem , no market no illegal drugs ! same with labor !

[powderman]

A big part of the problem is that too many companies refuse to provide real jobs, only hobbies. Just an example. There are 14 or 15 on my work crew on 2 shifts. There are 4 of us that work 40 hrs  a week and full time. They haven't hired anybody at full time 40 hrs for 4 years now. Walmart considers 28 hrs a week full time work. A lot of folks get 4 or 5 hrs a day, some 6. My good friend is full time, but she's been there 12+ years so they cut her hours to save theirselves money and give xtra to younger employees making less money. Last Sat she worked from 530 pm to 1000 pm, 4/12 hours, and drove 65 miles round trip for it. I just used walmart as an example, most other companies do the same thing. If companies want help, they should offer real jobs, not hobbies. POWDERMAN. 

[rockbilly]

Shootall, we have a very good work force in my area of the country.  We can contribute that to the fact that we have three universities, two junior collages, and several medical related schools.  (extensions from other universities.)  We have our share of wetbacks, but there are plenty of jobs to go around, and plenty of people willing to take them.  My son has really quality people knocking on his door almost daily looking for employment, I know several other business  owners that say the same thing.

I have to agree with you to some extent on finding workers, but the shortage in this area is primarily in construction, (cement or roofing) , or in the farm/ranch industry.  But this is to be expected with the booming economy we have experienced over the past few years.

I have no problem with using immigrants as long as they are legal, but I will maintain, to the day I die, there is no place for an illegal alien on American soil.  While you need them to work, and perhaps line your pockets from their sweat, they are stealing from the rest of us in several areas, resulting in a higher tax base for the legal Americans. 

[SHOOTALL]

ROCKBILLY, I don't work illegals , just so you know ! check everyone thru. the instant check system ! maybe thats why i see a shortage ? hum !
i agree about the illegals being here , but when you need labor and have a willing group to supply it the GOVT. needs to get off its collective backside and work it out !

[rockbilly]

Shootall, please don't take my post personal, I was attempting to make a general statement that applies to many of the folks that do hire illegals, knowingly.

As for the government getting off it's butt, it is awful hard for them to enforce a law when they are guilty of breaking it themselves.  I know for a fact that illegals have been used on military installations to do government contract work.  They are hired by the contractor who is responsible for conducting a security check on the individual before a pass is issued to enter the facility.  It was a joke among some of the grounds keepers on one base that the illegals were working in close proximity to all kinds of classified weapons systems.  Yelp, the gov. needs to clean up it own mess before trying to clean up the country.

[SHOOTALL]

ROCKBILLY , I don't , you see what so many don't ! Its like the parent that makes the rules but never enforces them ! Can't risk making a child mad now can we , just keep making laws ! I say close the borders , get a count and information on all of the illegals ,find out who wants to stay and who does not , see what our labor needs are and decide who can stay and for how long , and most important keep a record ! make it easy , you would need to enter and leave thru. the same port !
but I'm sure this would make more sense than what will end up being that new law !