Author Topic: Bush in Iraq (Read 8923 times)

gypsyman · « **on:** September 03, 2007, 10:07:45 AM »

What the heck is this man thinking! Going to a war zone on a holiday weekend. Actually conferring with the leaders of Iraq, his generals and their generals. You'ld actually think this man really cared about what was going on over there, instead of just worring about lineing his pockets with oil money. Can't remember how many trips LBJ made to 'nam, or how many Clinton made to Kosovo. This guy better straighten up his act, or a rumor might get started he really wants the troops to come home, with a victory! gypsyman

powderman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:42:28 AM »

Can anybody name another acting president who went into a combat zone to support the troops, repeatedly??? Good for him. I'm sure hildabeast will have to go now, we can hope. POWDERMAN.

30-06man · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2007, 12:01:35 PM »

on the news they said how he went into the worst part of iraq and the security was slack. normally he would wear a flat jacket and helmets and this time he went with normal clothes and told the media as if he wasn't worried. i say hes gutsy and one of the best presidents we have. if the media would focus on all the good stuff thats happening and not the negative. they seem to take pride act like savages just tring to ruin his reputation. he really has watched out for the 2nd amendment.

jh45gun · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2007, 03:38:10 PM »

I agree what you guys say and I support the man. I am sure you will get arguement form some here though the feel otherwise.

ironglow · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2007, 03:53:38 PM »

JH45gun;

The ones we are most likely to hear criticizing him for venturing into a war zone..will be the same ones that criticized him for following Secret Service's advice and not coming back to Wash DC on the day of the 9/11 attacks...LOL

Gun Runner · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2007, 05:59:56 PM »

Funny thing he was almost to where he was going, flying thru I-Wacky air space and still no body noticed him. They dint even tell the I-Wacky P.M. he was coming until he was almost their.

Gun Runner

Fazak · « **Reply #6 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:44:10 AM »

Quote from: powderman on September 03, 2007, 11:42:28 AM

Can anybody name another acting president who went into a combat zone to support the troops, repeatedly??? Good for him. I'm sure hildabeast will have to go now, we can hope. POWDERMAN.

Apparently, Bush doesn't realize that it's a combat zone. He stated way back in May of 2003 that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended".

See?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/01/sprj.irq.main/

jh45gun · « **Reply #7 on:** September 04, 2007, 10:52:02 AM »

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author=Fazak
Apparently, Bush doesn't realize that it's a combat zone. He stated way back in May of 2003 that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended".

LAME

ms · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:28:07 AM »

Bush got some of you brainwash.

Fazak · « **Reply #9 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:59:49 AM »

Yeah,... Bush probably took some sun tan lotion and a beach ball,... was planning on catching some rays on the bank of the Euphrates,... maybe get a little fishin' in.

The boys back in D.C are undoubtedly having a big hoot about it,... slapping each other on the back,... laughing,.. saying, "Are you gonna tell me that Bush thinks combat operations ended in 2003?!!,... whoooooo-eeEEEEEeeee!"

ironglow · « **Reply #10 on:** September 04, 2007, 01:29:52 PM »

Bush is far from perfect...but I don't see Ron Paul wearing a blue union suit with a red cape and a big S shield on his chest !

...In fact, I don't think he's Captain Marvel either !

Truth is, neither "W" Bush or Ron Paul enter on stage with a crash of thunder and a chorus of Heavenly Angels !

....Leaves me to wonder just with whom the "brainwashing" is taking place !

STILL ,..... the alternative of Nanny-state, baby killing, gun grabbing, surrender sluts..is nightmare material ..

FAZAK;

Don't know where you're getting your info from..but the Euphrates Valley is still no place for beach balls and lotion ! My grandson (a Spec Ops Marine)
is on his second deployment in Al Anbar.
I know you will be disappointed though, because the President's surge is working..even though there is still much danger things are greatly improved
in the last 3-4 months .
Last deployment, it was heavy combat for him almost every day around Ramadi & Fallujah,. This time around, the former terrorists are helping to fight Al Queda, and often hunting down and killing Al Queda by themselves !

Things are quiet enough that my grandson gets back to his base (Al Asad) relatively often...and was probably in the audience, cheering on the Prez while he was there !

BTW: Did you hear the raucous cheers and OORAHs the Marines gave the President ? Believe me, I know some of those Marines..and they mean it !

Remember, it takes a lot more courage to fly through the threat of ground-to-air missles than it does to choke bimbo interns in the oval office !

Sure, Bush made some mistakes..there have been plenty of mistakes made by our Commanders in chief in every war we ever fought.

Tragically;...It is only in recent decades have SOME of the public have begun to attack and try to savage our own leaders in a time of war..rather than the enemy..

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:38:43 PM »

IRONGLOW. Well said Sir. POWDERMAN.

Fazak · « **Reply #12 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:02:02 PM »

Well,.. this is what I know.

Ron Paul is about the only candidate in either party who is for getting our troops out of that mess,.. and he leads all candidates in campaign contributions from military personnel,.. both active and retired,.. by a VERY wide margin.

See?

http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/07/17/ron-paul-leads-all-08-candidates-with-one-third-of-military-contributions-for-q2/

Earlier, we reported military contributions among Republican presidential candidates place Ron Paul on top at 49.5%, with nearly as much as all Republicans combined.

A more complete compilation of statistics by Phreadom shows that presidential candidate Ron Paul leads all 2008 presidential candidates in military contributions from the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and war veterans. Presidential candidate Ron Paul leads with an impressive one-fourth* of all contributions this second quarter according to newly released data from the FEC.

30-06man · « **Reply #13 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:16:06 PM »

ironglow you got it right. if we don't finish this we will be fighting it on our own grounds. we all need to quit acting like little babys and stand up for what we belive. bush has made mistakes and the media makes the war sound so bad when its not. its going to be vietnam all over if we don't finish this. basically it will cause more hurt to the troops and retired to lose another war because of some stupid guy in a sute who thinks he knows it all.

jdt48653 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:33:17 PM »

UNBELIEVABLE !!!

jh45gun · « **Reply #15 on:** September 04, 2007, 05:37:05 PM »

Quote from: ms on September 04, 2007, 11:28:07 AM

Bush got some of you brainwash.

Yea and some of you would bitch if ya were hung with a rubber rope.

jh45gun · « **Reply #16 on:** September 04, 2007, 05:40:06 PM »

Quote from: powderman on September 04, 2007, 03:38:43 PM

IRONGLOW. Well said Sir. POWDERMAN.

I will second that Ironglow!

jh45gun · « **Reply #17 on:** September 04, 2007, 05:45:25 PM »

I sure as hell would not believe anything called the SPIN FACTOR even if it was for the candidate I wanted.

Fazak · « **Reply #18 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:01:05 PM »

Quote from: jh45gun on September 04, 2007, 05:45:25 PM

I sure as hell would not believe anything called the SPIN FACTOR even if it was for the candidate I wanted.

How many sources do you need?

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=144&a=3077

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/pauls-active-service-member-donations-get-noticed-2007-08-03.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/213064/Military_Supports_Ron_Paul_More_Than_Any_Other_Candidate

I have no reason to distort facts.

The truth is good enough.

jh45gun · « **Reply #19 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:29:27 PM »

If ya got other sources fine I still would not trust anything that said spin factor as from what I get out of the word spin if you put a spin on things your pretty much lieing about it to cover up something.

ms · « **Reply #20 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:56:32 PM »

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If ya got other sources fine I still would not trust anything that said spin factor as from what I get out of the word spin if you put a spin on things your pretty much lieing about it to cover up something. Bush tells the spin factor what to say!!!!!!!!!

ms · « **Reply #21 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:58:45 PM »

Yea and some of you would bitch if ya were hung with a rubber rope. only if the rope hurt.

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:38:34 PM »

Perhaps it only looks like one gets more contributions from veterans than others...because they are the only ones keeping score !

I have contributed over the years to various campaigns and although I am a veteran, I never got a letter asking me about my military record or if I even am a vet..

Ron Paul may well be a good candidate, certainly better than any Demoncrat ...and if he is chosen by the Republicans I will vote for him.
I will not however, vote for a "third party" candidate and GIVE the election to the Dems..

I don't know Paul's stance with the "War on terror" , so help me out:

Does he plan on WINNING the war, starting in Iraq..or is he planning to "cut and run" ?

"There is no substitute for victory !"...Gen Douglas MacArthur

Fazak · « **Reply #23 on:** September 05, 2007, 03:19:50 AM »

Ron Paul isn't a liar.

The war in Iraq is based on lies.

Ron Paul will bring the troops home,... including your grandson.

magooch · « **Reply #24 on:** September 05, 2007, 04:05:30 AM »

The only thing based on lies is the crap the surrender monkeys are throwing around. It doesn't take any spin to notice that this country hasn't suffered another attack since 9/11 and that we are fighting terrorists in Iraq rather than having them carrying out sneak attacks over here.

Saddam was one of the prime sponsors of terrorism and he'd still be doing that if we hadn't put a stop to it. We can always return to the "good old days" of non-engagement and allow the terrorists to resume their attacks on us here and around the world.

The only mistake that President Bush has made is that he didn't let the Air Force wipe that snake pit off he face of the earth.

alsaqr · « **Reply #25 on:** September 05, 2007, 04:15:00 AM »

"The only mistake that President Bush has made is that he didn't let the Air Force wipe that snake pit off he face of the earth."

Yep, the Air Force done so well in Viet Nam: Dropped 6.5 million tons of bombs and we still lost the war.

Fazak · « **Reply #26 on:** September 05, 2007, 04:25:47 AM »

Ron Paul voted in Congress to authorize military action against Bin Laden and Al Queda,.. But the neocons decided to go nation building in Iraq instead.

Consequently,.. our military is bogged down in a country which posed no threat to the U.S.,.. Bin Laden remains free,.. Al Qaeda is stronger than ever,.... and our military and financial resources have been depleted to an extent that America would have a difficult time fending off a real threat.

The worst military boondoggle of modern times.

jh45gun · « **Reply #27 on:** September 05, 2007, 08:25:51 AM »

No your wrong it should have been finished when Bush SR was in office and if he did not have time to get it done than Klinton should have finished it. All both of them did is allow Iraq and Iran and Afganistan and the others to get stronger.

Fazak · « **Reply #28 on:** September 05, 2007, 08:40:10 AM »

Here's what some past military commanders in Iraq have to say on the matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMPIi03wSfY&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw4jSZLkJqA&mode=related&search=

ironglow · « **Reply #29 on:** September 05, 2007, 09:17:44 AM »

Fazak;

I guess you're telling us he does want to "cut and run"...

Regardless of what Paul wants, my grandson and the Marines he serves with want to WIN the conflict !

They have too many brothers in arms that were hurt and killed..to tuck tail and run.

Real Soldiers & Marines don't do that !

I have met and conversed with appx 20 of his fellow serving Marines..not a single one of them endorse the "Surrender Suzies"...