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Offline superdown

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encore shotgun?
« on: September 10, 2007, 06:45:06 PM »
 ??? this is probably a stupid question but here goes what are the legalities concerning having a pistol length shotgun barrels i know they have the 45/410 barrel but what about a 28 or 20 gauge in a pistol i am pretty shure its illegal but why? ,justin

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 10:01:10 PM »
Overall length would be the kicker I think. I don't have the numbers handy but there is an overall length requirement for shotguns and you need to stay within that. Folks legally get by with shotguns with pistol grips which would in effect be the same thing but most such have a receiver that adds length. Check to see what the OAL requirement is and if  you meet that I suspect you'll be OK. BUT remember I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.


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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 12:30:03 AM »
I believe it's Federal law that requires any smooth bore to have a barrel of at least 18" and an overall length that prohibits pistol grips.  Pistols like the Contender .410/.45Colt have to have rifled bores.  I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think I'm pretty close.  GOOD SHOOTIN',  Walt   :)

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 12:54:06 AM »
     The reason the 45/410 barrel are legal is the fact they are rifled and not smooth bore so they are still a legal .45 caliber handgun with a chamber long enough to take a .410 shell. For a smooth bore to be legal it has to have at least 18" of barrel and 26"or 28" or overall length. I don't remember the over all length for sure. A shotgun under the 18" barrel length or over all legal length is classed as an AOW (Any other weapon) and requires the same forms and tax papers as a machinegun. Maybe someone else can give you the exact over all length. Some of the laws on firearms and related things don't seem to follow logic at times but they are still the law. A good example being the same thing applies to rifles with barrels under 16" of length. Where is the logic in a short barrel rifle being against the law when a handgun is smaller and something that can be carried in a persons pocket? It is illegal to put a stock on a handgun, that would make it too big to hide in your pocket and harder to hide. We have a lot of laws on the books in this country, not just gun laws, that are really funny if you read them. Makes you wonder just what the people that wrote them were thinking, but laws are just that and to stay out of trouble you must obey them. You can find the Federal laws by doing a search on the government listings. Better to be safe than sorry.

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 04:17:46 AM »
My understanding of the logic of the short barreled rifle law is that a stock can make a gun hide-able under a jacket that has the potential for longer shots than pistols of the time when the law was passed.  Of course much has changed since then.  I guess I would prefer those making laws now not pay much attention to firearms.  I am concerned with what may come out
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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 04:40:36 AM »
The minimum overall length is 26" for a smooth bore, the barrel is 18" minimum. If you really want one bad enough to jump through the hoops you can get a permit to manufacture one, it  requires an FFL (C&R is the cheapest) and about the same paperwork you have to fill out for a machine gun. $250.00 was the fee last time I looked. All the applications are available at ATF.gov

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 07:34:31 AM »
Thanks for the info but that sounds like alot of complication for something i don't really need i just thought it would be nice to have a larger shotgun pistol barrel and be able to shoot 20 gauge rifled slugs and bird-shot sounds more useful than the 45/410 because i have heard it doesn't shoot 45 accurately and because its rifled it doesn't pattern well. , justin

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 11:32:50 AM »
it would be really cool to have a 15" 12 or 20 ga fully rifled slug barrel for deer hunting.

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Re: encore shotgun?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 05:50:47 PM »
 I would really like that .8)