Yes, you are correct, one does need to size and lube cast boolits before they are shot. I didn't do that thinking that the pics would show the cast boolit mo beta. I guess I was wrong. I've looked at Lee's, Lymans, Saeco and several other makers of moulds and none look like this one. I'm really stumped. As far as the "soup can" is concerned, well I haven't given up on it yet. I'm just exploring different avenues at the moment. I like the design of the "soup can" it just didn't shoot as good(not even close) as the casts that came from John Larson. My little boy is so pumped right now. His ego is inflated so much you would think he's riding on clouds. Just think of the accomplishment a 9yrs old boy feels when he can hit a 1/2" dot at 25-30yds consistantly. I hope I find the mould or John Larson soon. Thanks for your input CW. Have a great day bro.