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Offline Murphy

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Tested my new Handi Rifle .308 today.
« on: September 27, 2007, 04:16:06 PM »
After breaking in my Handi's barrel using J.B. bore paste and plenty of elbow grease, I carried it to the range this evening to sight it in.

I had a box of 50 rounds of hand loads I had worked up for my M1A Springfield Armory and decided to just use them to sight in and see what I could get out of the gun today.  Bullets were 150 grainer's and not what I would call 'warm' loads.

I got it on paper at 25 yd's, then out to 100yds. I had O ring floated the barrel and was resting the gun frame just in front of the trigger guard with a good sand bag rest.

I was getting some vertical stringing, anywhere from 4-5 inches between shots. I moved the forearm to the sand bag and tried that..no good. I removed the O ring and tried again. Resting on the forearm to begin with. Still got vertical flyers. Next, I tried shooting with the frame resting on the bag again just infront of the trigger guard. It finally began to show some hope. About a 2 1/2" to 3" group began to form.

When I removed the forearm to remove the O ring, I noticed that there were bright spots on the piece that attaches to the forearm and on the front of the receiver frame. Is this uncommon? Or is it just beginning to 'wear in'? This makes about 40 rounds now that have been put thru the gun which I bought new.

Any pointers would be most appreciated guys.

P.S. I've read the FAQ's, etc. Just hoping for some good pointers and first hand info.

Thanks,

Murphy

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Re: Tested my new Handi Rifle .308 today.
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 06:03:35 PM »
Vertical stringing is the bane of Handi's.  The bright spots are normal, just where the contact is made.  My personal opinion is that no pressure from the forearm is best, either that or lots of pressure to hold everything tight.  If anyone ever finds the solution to the problem they may become a National Hero.  Larry
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Re: Tested my new Handi Rifle .308 today.
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2007, 12:24:34 AM »
The wear you describe is common. In fact, some shim the fore end to make sure there is good contact at the front of the frame. They say they do not want the barrel to drop open when the release button is pushed they want it to have a little resistance to open the barrel. It sounds to me like you are on the right track. Maybe another load/brand of 308 will tighten up your groups a little more. A Handi can be a little picky about what it likes to shoot. You said that you were getting 2 1/2 - 3" groups. Do you mean there was no vertical stringing any more - they were generally round in shape? There are lots more things to try. Bullet seating depth, powder charge change, bullet style/weight. then there is the Handi itself. Some have full floated the fore end, some have bedded the fore end. You might try to take the fore end off and see how it shoots. Better, worse? It could help you to decide if the fore end needs some work and what kind of work it will take. Then there is making sure the latch is clean and dry. You need to snap the action shut smartly each and every time. There is also trigger follow through, making sure you are pulling the trigger the same each and every time. Some get lucky and pull the rifle from the box clean it up good, mount their scope and off to the range to find they shoot nice tight groups. Most however do not find this. There are so many different things to try, some give up. Reread the FAQ. I would try one thing at a time. When you find some thing that works leave it alone then try some thing else, until you find that right combination. Remember shooting technique is very important to a Handi. Follow through on the trigger and make sure you are snapping the action shut with a little force. This makes sure the latch is mating with the barrel the same each time. That in itself can cause vertical strings. Quicktdoo (Quick for short) is a moderator here and has lots of Handis (35 or so). He shows them off in pictures now and then. A while back I noticed he was storing them in the rack "upside down". The older pictures he was storing them in the traditional way, muzzle up. He knows what he is doing when it comes to Handis and I suspect he is storing them that way to keep the oil in the bore from running down into the action and particularly the latch. Only he can answer this to be sure. Good luck to you.
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Re: Tested my new Handi Rifle .308 today.
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 05:53:29 AM »
LaOtto is right on the rifles stored muzzle down, and everything else he shared too, but I got tired of wiping the oil off the chamber face and realized it wasn't just there, but on the latch shelf too, which isn't good for accuracy, so I started storing them just like I've always stored my muzzleloaders. ;)

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Re: Tested my new Handi Rifle .308 today.
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 09:09:49 AM »
my son's heavy barrel .308 likes plain ol' RP factory 150-grainers, and hornady factory 165-grainers. probably likes the RP a tad better ... 'bout 1.25 inches, consistently.  8)
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