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blackhawk trigger pull
« on: September 28, 2007, 01:06:25 PM »
i read somewhere how to lighten the trigger pull on a blackhawk.it had something to do with a spring under the grips.
well today at the range i had occassion to removew thje grips,and i saw what appears to be the main spring,and then
higher up the grip frame i saw what might be the spring to pop off. i didn't do anything because iwasn't sure.besides the way the day went i may as well went for a root canal.

the question is has any blackhawk owners tried this ,and hif so how did it work out in the long run? thanks,dan
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2007, 01:35:47 PM »
  known as the poor man trigger job.  I've tried it and wasn't oo impressed.  I've also read how the spring can be rebent for better trigger feel.  Of course simply buying $20 worth of replacement springs would be best.  Get in, change them olut and do some poliching too. 
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2007, 11:26:04 AM »
The spring your looking at under the grips is the hammer spring. You can weaken it and liten the trigger pull, but you also weakend the hammer fall. If you load your own and use only Federal primers you can probibly get away with doing that, as Fed. primers have a softer cup, but with other primers you may get alot of miss fires. You can get a trigger spring and do the job right, but they are harder to change. If you doubt your ability at all I would recomand you that it to a good gun smith and have him do it right.

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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 11:39:58 AM »
I did the poor man trigger job to several....maybe all of my Ruger single actions (over a year ago).  It causes a burnishing of the trigger and sear engagement surfaces. I did not alter any springs.  It worked perfect with NEVER a problem of any sort.  I recently did some work on the pawls (?) as outlined in a previous post, and it worked perfect w/o any downside.
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2007, 01:36:12 PM »
i did it to my 41mag and 45 colt blackhawks, and i didn't have a misfire yesterday. someone sent the info from gunblast and i'm definitely liking the lighter pull. some day though i'll probably replace all springs.
thank you for the input dan
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2007, 01:59:44 PM »
I've replaced springs on several Ruger's that I have.  Bought all of them here...http://www.gunsprings.com/

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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 01:08:18 AM »
do NOT do the hammer pushing suggestion they give. What your doing is rounding off your sear and if you shoot your gun much you will potentialiy run into a dangerous situation down the road when the parts start wearing a touch. ALLWAYS even if you just drop a leg on the spring test your hammer by cocking the gun and pushing heavily on the hammer to makes sure you cant push off your hammer. IVe had them do it with just a drop in the spring leg and I can GUARANTEE that if you try that trick of pushing the hammer off to smothen the sear you will eventually run into that problem. Plus what youve essentialiy done is ruin your hammer and trigger and when you do want to get a proper trigger job done they will need to be replaced. BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!!!!! If anything drop a leg on the spring and start saving your money for a proper action job. they can be done for a 100 bucks. Save the 20 bucks your going to waste on a spring. The exact same thing can be done by bending your trigger spring and cutting a coil or two off the main spring. But i would even fool with that unless you know what your doing. Bottom line is creap in a trigger is whats going to give you the most problem with shooting accurately. Id rather have a  5 lb creap free trigger then a 2 lb trigger with creap. NONE of these quicky tricks are going to do a thing to eliminate creap. That push off trick might make you think you did as the creap will be smoother but its still there. the only thing thats going to do a pinch of damm to trigger creap is a file in the hands of someone that knows what there doing. Theres a fine ballance that needs to be manitained in a ruger. Dropping springs and cutting coils is a comromise. Its going to make your hammer fall sluggish and even if you dont get misfires your going to have longer lock time and it to can effect accuracy. A good gunsmith will smoothen out the mating parts in your action and cut the hammer properly so that you get a good 2-3 lb trigger with no creap and still maitain your spring tension.
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 10:16:32 AM »
Dan, while removing one leg of the spring does make the pull lighter it also makes it gritty with lots of travel. I send mine to Alan Harton who can really tune up a new model. Let me know if you need his information, I will happy to get it to you.

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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 08:19:17 AM »
What I found with my ruger 44, is just shoot it and shoot it and shoot it.  After a thousand rounds or two I found that the trigger pull on my gun is much more pleasing, other than that I believe in the good gunsmith route.    ;D ;D
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Re: blackhawk trigger pull
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 02:23:37 PM »
thanks two dogs,i may take you up on that in the future,but for now i'm satisfied. my 41 mag has really come into its'
own this year since finding the right combination of red dot sight and a load(s)  it likes.in fact this blackhawk may well be it opening day.if not opening day it will see some field time. after the season i'm going to get some weaver rings to replace the ones that came with the bushnell sight and i'm going to replace the base pin spring with a wolf spring.
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