Author Topic: Glock 20 10 mm (Read 5509 times)

Stan_TheGunNut · « **on:** June 13, 2003, 03:48:48 PM »

I've been considering getting a 10 mm for a while, and have my eye on the G20. Does anyone here have any experience with this caliber or handgun model? Specifically, I'm wondering how the recoil is, are high cap magazines available, in general how expensive is it to shoot, and any other comments any of you might have. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Stan

Savage · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2003, 06:49:23 AM »

Stan,
I didn't mean to start a new thread on this, I hit the wrong key! My reply is Glock 20.
Savage

MI VHNTR · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2003, 04:34:53 PM »

I've got a G20 and there's no problem with the recoil. In fact, the recoil is overstated by most people, especially those that have never fired a G20, or any other 10mm for that matter. A friend has a G20C, which is the compensated version of the G20. It's got less muzzle flip, but quite a bit more muzzle blast, due to the porting. I prefer the unported model. The normal capacity magazines (15 rounds) can sometimes be found at fair prices. Here's a site for Glock 10 mm info, look under 10 Ring:
http://www.glocktalk.com
Ammo isn't too bad, price wise. You can find Winchester 175 gr SilverTip at very good prices. I've seen it under $10 for a box of 20 rounds. It's a very potent load in the 10mm. Here's another good place for 10mm ammo: http://www.georgia-arms.com
They make REAL, full power 10 mm loads with Speer Gold Dot bullets. Skip the Federal 10mm HydraShok. It's only loaded to 40 Short & Weak power levels. One more thing, you can change the G20 into a 40 s&w or a 357 Sig with a barrel change. You can't convert the lesser calibers into the 10mm. Once you shoot the 10mm, you'll wonder why you waited so long to get one. MI VHNTR

Cottonwood · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2003, 06:18:55 AM »

Well I don't have a G20 yet. If I knew someone that had one and could test run it for recoil, I may find that I like it.

Now that a friend of mine gave me 3 boxes of 100 ct Win Silver Tip 175 gr bullets to reload. Said they would work well in my G27, but I haven't reloaded for it because I haven't switched out the barrels from factory to a KKM.

I will get out this next week maybe and try a G21 though :lol:

Stan_TheGunNut · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2003, 07:57:06 AM »

Well, I broke down and bought the G20 in 10mm that I had been wanting for a long time. If you don't see me on here again, it's because my wife has clubed me over the head with it for buying another gun. I appreciate all your responses. ALso, are you all telling me that I can change the G20 in 10 mm to 40S&W or 357 Sig with a simple barrel change. I know the 40 and 357 are interchangeable and only need the barrel change, but the 10 mm ammo is longer. I don't see how the 40 and 357 can be substitued for a 10. I'll take your word for it though. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Stan

MI VHNTR · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2003, 04:43:24 PM »

Stan, congrats on the new G20! Make sure to check out the link to GlockTalk for LOTS of 10 mm info. There's reloading, barrel change, and guide rod info posted there. MI VHNTR

adstrin · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2003, 02:26:31 PM »

I've got a G20c and I love it. Its grip is a little big for me because I'm pretty much a runt, but I love the gun and the round. :grin:

bkwest · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2003, 05:16:53 PM »

you can call me at 605-209-0571

Arc Angel · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2003, 08:56:02 AM »

Hi, Stan! May I suggest that you take a look at: 'Glocktalk.com' Go to the, 'Caliber Corner' topic heading, and open the Thread on the above titled subject. In particular I would direct your attention to those comments made by, 'G. Gunman.' As far as I am concerned he is one of the most experienced and savvy gunmen, around!

This subject is, also, very well discussed (Sometimes, perhaps, a little too passionately.) by everyone who has answered this thread. Good luck to you on whatever you decide.

TheGunDealer · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:00:55 AM »

Quote from: Stan_TheGunNut

ALso, are you all telling me that I can change the G20 in 10 mm to 40S&W or 357 Sig with a simple barrel change. I know the 40 and 357 are interchangeable and only need the barrel change, but the 10 mm ammo is longer. I don't see how the 40 and 357 can be substitued for a 10. I'll take your word for it though. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Stan

yes, all that is needed to change the G20 over to another c aliber is a barrel change. do remember though that the G20/G21 is LARGER than the other glocks, so a barrel made specifically for the G20/G21 is needed you can get barrels to convert the gun in the following calibers:

40S&W
.357Sig
.400 cor-bon
.45 acp

im sure theres others, but cant think of them off the top of my head right now. also, the G20 will readly accept the G21 barrel for changeover to .45 ACP. the 10mm mags will work too ( ive used them) with the 45 acp,so need to buy a different magazine

as far as buying a 40 S&W barrel, i own a couple of G20's a 1st and 3d gen with the rail/finger grooves, and i regularly shoot the 40 thru both guns. generally, this is not reccomended as both the 40 and the 10mm headspace on the case mouth,and the 40 is shorter than the 10, but the G20's extractor is sufficently strong to allow the 40 to headspace off of the extractor. ive regularly practiced with 40 thru my 1st gen since i bought it new years ago without a problem ( this is because in my area, its pretty hard to find 10MM, and ive got a friend that reloads 40 by the thousands for me and him both:) ). im not reccomending that you shoot 40 thru your G20 (if you have one), thats a decision you need to make for yourself.

as for hunting with the 10MM, ive killed ALOT of different game animals with mine, from wild boar to whitetail and blacktail deer,ect. Ted Nuggent, rock musician and prominant big game hunter uses the G20 almost exclusively as a side arm/primary hunting gun all over the world. remeber , the 10MM ( in the figures) is just a semi-auto 41 magnum.

if you own one, you could not have made a better choice, if you dont, you better go get one.

Savage · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2004, 08:12:52 AM »

Just wondering----------if you put a 21 barrel in a mdl 20, how do you get the larger Dia .45 ACP case head to fit the breach face?
The 10mm case has a rim dia of .425---The 45 has a rim dia of .480. Thats a difference of.055. Seems to me it'd take a big hammer to get that 45ACP case into that breach face--------- I wouldn't go out and buy a mdl 21 barrel for my mdl 20 expecting it to work-----kinda eliminates the .400 Corbon as well---------Just for grins, I removed the slide on my 10mm and tried to insert a .45 case----------I can tell you bro-----it"s not happening!
Savagehttp://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/album_pic.php?pic_id=226

Savage · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2004, 08:18:30 AM »

On well--the link to the photo album isn't working. I took a pic of a 10mm & .45 case side by side for visual comparison.
Savage

Arc Angel · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2004, 09:28:32 AM »

:shock: Last time I checked the 10mm and 45acp barrels were NOT interchangeable between the Glock Model 20 and Model 21. Interesting thought, though! :wink:

dannytoro · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2004, 07:45:25 AM »

.......While I do not own a Glock20(I would like to eventually own one), I will concur that the controlibility of 10mm rounds is better then conventional wisdom makes out. I have a full size Tonfoglio Witness and it is quite nimble in follow up. I do prefer the 175 Grain Silver tips. It usually keeps groups in the 9ring of a five inch target at 25 yards. EAA says it will be supplying 12 round mags soon.......

Savage · « **Reply #14 on:** October 06, 2004, 12:02:18 PM »

dannytoro,
I've got a Tonfoglio full size 10mm in the Wonder Finish. It's one of my qualified duty guns. Mine took a bit to tweaking to make it reliable, but it's running good now. I ordered a 40S&W barrel for it for some unknown reason. I'm in the process of finding a load spring combo that will work with that cartridge. Recoil in 10mm is difficult to tell from my 1911s in 45ACP. I reload for all my guns and am not limited to the neutered rounds either. Still hard to beat the mdl 20 for a fullsize 10 mm though. I like um both. Another great thing about the 20 is that it fits in my 21 duty gear. Welcome to the board!
Savage

DelGue · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2004, 06:24:31 AM »

I love my Glock 20, but I wished I would have gotten the Glock 20C.

I have a 23C and a 31C and really like their preformance. I think the "muzzle blast" is over hyped, IMHO.

JOE MACK · « **Reply #16 on:** October 09, 2004, 05:40:04 PM »

Quote from: TheGunDealer

[. remeber , the 10MM ( in the figures) is just a semi-auto 41 magnum.

I knew it, I knew it! I knew someone would eventually get around to comparing the 10mm and .41Magnum in this thread. :x They are only comperable in a few low end factory .41Magnum loads. I've got two 10mms 'cause they are AS CLOSE to a .41Magnum as I can get in a semi-auto pistol. I've also got T/C barrels in 10mm, 10mmMag, and .41Magnum just for jollies. When it comes to handloading, it's not even close. I have a load for a 250grWFNGC that will do around 1450fps and a 210gr.JHP load that does 1600fps+ in a couple firearms. I'm not knocking the 10mm or I'd get rid of mine. It's just simply no .41Magnum!!

Raging480 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2004, 06:51:16 AM »

gee, Joe Mack, the closest I could get to a .41 mag Semiauto is my Desert Eagle Mark VII, chambered in .41 Rem Mag. Every time I think I should buy a 10mm SA, I take out my DE and shoot a few mags through it. That cures me!

jro45 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2005, 03:19:22 AM »

I have the Glock 20 10 mm and I load them as fast as permited in load books. There is some recoil but not bad. The acuratacy is great. I don't know anything about a 41 cal are they the same dia as the 10 mm?

redawg · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2005, 10:41:12 AM »

I gotta agree w/ Joe Mack. I love the 10mm, but it's no .41 Mag.

jro45, the 10mm uses .400 diameter bullets, the .41 Mag uses .410 diameter bullets. Not really much of a difference, but the .41 can push them faster. BTW, Happy Birthday! :grin:

jro45 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2005, 04:04:05 AM »

Quote from: redawg

I gotta agree w/ Joe Mack. I love the 10mm, but it's no .41 Mag.

jro45, the 10mm uses .400 diameter bullets, the .41 Mag uses .410 diameter bullets. Not really much of a difference, but the .41 can push them faster. BTW, Happy Birthday! :grin:

redawg, Thanks for the Happy Birthday. I have never wanted to own a 41 cal handgun, because I own The S&W 500 8 3/8" barrel and I can shoot a 400 gr bullet at 1620 FPS or a 500gr bullet at 1419 FPS.

Guns4570 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2005, 06:00:52 PM »

Look up the loads for the 10mm using a Nosler 135 gr hollow point and IMR 800x powder. I belive you will find the load about 5000PSI below SAMMI maximums for the 10mm and the velocity from the 6" drop in hunting barrel Glock sells should be around 1700 fps give or take a smidge. In the 4.5" barrel it will be a bit less. You can find the load in the Richard Lee reloading manual, not the new one but the one from a few years back. Enjoy, my buddies called them my thermonuclear loads...LOL>

crazyhorse · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2005, 09:31:03 AM »

ok ? i was looking in to buying a glock 17 but was wondering with this being my first hadgun would i be able to use the glock 20 with the recoil or should i just start with the 17 and then eventuall get the g20 ty in advance.

HAMMERHEAD · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2005, 11:41:52 AM »

The Glock 20 is my main pistol, not a safe queen. I shoot it more than any other firearm I own just 'cause it's fun, powerfull and accurate.
The Glock 20 will take aftermarket conversion barrels for .357 sig, .40s&w, and 9X25 Dillon. Glock .45acp barrels will not fit in the slide.
You could buy a G-21 upper with the mags for .45acp. Some guys have even bought the 6" Lone Wolf .45acp upper and a special KKM 6" 10mm conversion barrel to make a 10mm longslide.
I just use my stock G-20 and a KKM .40s&w conversion barrel. Shoots beautifully. Accuracy is as good as my 10mm barrel out to 50 yards, and recoil is very soft, soft like bunnies and frenchmen. I use the standard 10mm mags without any problem.
The only thing it won't shoot is 9mm.