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Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« on: October 12, 2007, 05:57:01 AM »
Which do you enjoy more, the shooting or the reloading?

I'm in the shooting camp. I have friends who spend more time loading a good quality round than they do in shooting, and they endlessly explore different components. It's really the loads that they enjoy most.

Where do you fit in?
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 06:10:31 AM »
The shooting. I hate to reload and do it only as a means to an end. If I were rich enough to afford to shoot only factory ammo I sure enough would do so and not reload.


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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 08:24:24 AM »
I prefer the term 'handloading' to 'reloading' but its not even a close second. I would shoot all the ammo the someone else could correctly and safely load for me and never miss it at all.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 09:16:31 AM »
I'm on the rail with this one. I like shooting what I load, but I like to experiment with different loads.

So I reckon the answer is  ''D"...All of the above!

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 09:35:47 AM »
I like to reload because it's a means to an end.  I'm with GB, if I had deeper pockets and could afford to use only factory ammo I would.  I do enjoy being able to make some "specialty" ammo though.  For instance 35gr v-max in 223.  I haven't found that one on the shelves.  I also like that fact that if I need ammo I just go to my basement and start cranking it out, but sometimes I miss the days of ordering bulk off the internet and having a huge heavy box on my doorstep when I got home.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 11:49:56 AM »
I started reloading to allow my limited funds to go further. .  I started at the lowest rung with a Lee Loader for the 12 gauge and .357.magnum.  This was simple useable field and practice ammunition.

When I started reloading rifle ammunition the primer, case, and bullet often duplicated what the factory offered.  But original surplus 4831 and H4831 filled the case.  And accuracy improved.  Later my bullet selection expanded to some that were not found in loaded ammunition.  When game was taken my satisfaction with my efforts was increased.

Reloading saved one of my rifles from being sold.  I purchased a Ruger M77 and ammunition from Federal, Winchester, and Remington for elk hunting.  Accuracy was terrible.  I had spent hard earned money on a dud.  I was an unhappy camper, but I had already acquired dies, bullets, and magnum primers for it, and I had surplus 4831 on hand.  Might as well give it a chance.  Suddenly I had an accurate rifle using different bullet weights from a number of makers.  The real test came when I tried the factory Remington 175 grain C-L bullet pushed by 4831.  It was shooting bulls eyes.  I then tried H870 and AA8700 and it continued to shoot bulls eyes.  The rifle became a keeper.

Last spring I pulled out two boxes of WW 150 grain, 7MM ammunition to see if the rifle would shot any better with them then 30 years ago.  Nope, it did not and I save the brass for loading.

I believe the reloads filled the case to near capacity and that contributed to better accuracy.

Another round that makes sense to reload is the .303 British.  I found the 174-grain Hornady shoots well out of my Jungle Carbine.    I have never seen ammunition on the store shelve loaded with this bullet.

I have already posted why I like reloading for the .300 Savage.  http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,127866.0.html

Years ago I geared up and did some load development for the 30-30 Winchester.  But most of those components have been on standby.  The reason is that I keep finding the factory ammunition on sale.  Last spring I reached into my pocket and bought five boxes of Federal 150 grain at a low price.  I did that on impulse because I already had a good supply on hand.  My thoughts to use it to train up a new to be family member.  I can afford to burn a few boxes of shells to get a young guy out in the woods to drag my deer in.  So I might reload for the 30-30 again.

When the Chrony started telling the truth about factory ammunition satisfaction with my pet .270 loads increased.  And I was able to develop realistic drop charts.

When the weather turns nasty reloading is a good diversion for me.  The wife knits and I reload.
The three hundred or so centerfire rifle rounds I have fired since last January at todays prices off the shelve would have cost me approximately $450.00, plus the Governors share.  Most of my components were purchased at a lower price in the past.  Admittedly I have purchased some bulk brass in the last year.  Those three hundred rounds cost me at most seventy-five dollars.  You might want to pro-rate a few cents for the old Lyman Turret press, and dies.  The press and dies are close to 35-years old.  I did buy a new Lyman Mag-T press on sale this year.  I bought it because I wanted it, not because I needed it.  Kind of like my wife buying a new knitting, needle, right?

My goal is to load a lot of ammunition on nasty winter days so that when the weather breaks I can go out and get in quality practice.

The bottom-line is that I reload to shoot and enjoy my firearms.  And I enjoy reloading.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 01:22:58 PM »
I think that Siskiyou summed it pretty well. I feel about the same way. I like to shoot, but I like to reload too.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2007, 01:26:56 PM »
I used to love it all but as I've gotten older, the tedium of case prep has gotten to be a pain. I know that store boughten ammo has gotten better but I just can't believe its as good as what I can make.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 01:34:47 PM »


 I've come to the conclusion that I enjoy the reloading more. I don't know how many rifles I've sold or traded off once I find that perfect pet load.

 But shootin is still a lot of fun too.


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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2007, 01:55:51 PM »
If I won a lottery and could retire, I would still reload, only this time I would have my own range. You figure.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2007, 04:28:25 PM »
Good topic here ...

For me, I believe I enjoy both equally but as mentioned ... case prep gets tiresome at times.


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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 05:45:36 PM »
If I won a lottery and could retire, I would still reload, only this time I would have my own range. You figure.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2007, 09:39:07 PM »
I enjoy both for different reasons. The shooting is fun. The reloading is a challenge and is rewarding when that super load comes together.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2007, 12:06:10 AM »
I enjoy handloading allmost as much as shooting.Trying different powders and bullets,and even primers and cases to find the best shootng load has always fascinated me.As I've aged I could do without the case prep,but I do that on rainy days now. :D
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2007, 03:32:48 AM »
Case prep is probably the worst part of reloading. I have a RCBS Trim Mate case prep center that takes a lot of the work out of it. It chamfers the case mouths inside and out and cleans/uniforms the primer pockets quickly. It still is not the fun part, but it cuts the time down needed to get ready to seat primers.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2007, 06:48:44 AM »
Case Prep is my sentiments exactly when it comes to the term called reloading.
It is tedious at first but then makes one more and more Particular as time passes. Once the right load is found, and the smallest details are met (such as a clean primer pocket) I believe that it raises ones faith and
Confidence in the hand loads whether it be real or imagined ;D

The big thing for myself is that reloading lets me shoot more for the same cost and I think that this is what it is really about. An added benefit (read bragging rights) is that when my non-reloading friends come over
And see 1,000 to 1,500 rounds of ammo ready to go for various calibers, their eyes become big as saucers as it looks like a gold mine to them!.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2007, 04:12:26 PM »
For sure, for me it's the shooting.  Handloading is a means to an end, although I'll admit that it is a relaxing one.  ;)
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2007, 06:01:42 PM »
This is a close one to call.I LOVE handloading.I also LOVE to shoot all my "roll-my-own" loads.Loading is never a chore for me.I can afford all the "store bought" ammo I want,but it's not the same.Kinda like kissing your sister.No satisfaction!!!!!....Rick ;D
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2007, 06:21:36 AM »
I've been hand loading almost 40 yrs.  On the old single stage, it was a 3-4 nights a week job to keep up on ammo. As it was getting to be a chore, so started using turrets and progressives about 10 yrs ago. I'm retired now and only load when I feel like it. I can crank up the progressive and load in large lots, which only ties up an evening or two a month. Sometimes I'm in the mood and load more frequently. I couldn't shoot as much as I like if I bought factory ammo. Guess the shooting part is more fun these days!
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2007, 04:49:14 PM »
I'm on the rail with this one. I like shooting what I load, but I like to experiment with different loads.

So I reckon the answer is  ''D"...All of the above!

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Ditto. I love shooting, but I also thoroughly enjoy my handloading time too.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 10:52:54 PM »
I lo ;D Right now I'm working on trying to find a 220 swift rifle to start my next project.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2007, 11:56:03 PM »
It's kind of a toss up for me. But I'll admit that before I was retired the hand loading wasn't as relaxing as it is now.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2010, 04:39:49 PM »
i am really enjoying loading my ammo for my different firearms. it is'nt satisfactory unless they are under an inch. i would say that i like them both the same.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 05:19:02 PM »
I enjoy saying "I shot that deer, with a cartridge I made".

On the refrigerator, alongside the pictures of the kids and of places we have been, hangs a target with 3 holes spaced 0.16" c-c with a recipe written off to the side. Hopefully it will get replaced with a target with what looks like a single hole.

There are days at the range, I may unload a gun, shoot one perfect shot, and put it up. (Now I will stay and get aggravated with some other gun.)

Nothing better on a rainy afternoon, than doing a batch of something; whether its de-priming, cleaning, or loading, with the History channel or the Allman Brothers going in the background.

I think I like loading as much as shooting, but I like knowing that a particular gun/bullet combination is as good as it can get, and is ready to go.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 03:24:39 AM »
I get the same satisfaction from reloading, as I do when I finish a project. Knowing that I loaded the ammo means that I did my job properly. Especially when it comes together in nice tight groups. gypsyman
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 06:30:26 AM »
i do like to shoot but i have at times gotten "bored" with a rifle because it took only a few days to work up a load, and trade or sell it and get a new rifle to work up a load for.

kinda like the challenge.
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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 06:45:38 AM »
i do like to shoot but i have at times gotten "bored" with a rifle because it took only a few days to work up a load, and trade or sell it and get a new rifle to work up a load for.

kinda like the challenge.

I do the same thing.  I have a savage predator 223 that hits right where I want it to out to 700 yards with my handloads.  Using my handloads it's almost not any challenge to shoot just about anything I can see.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 07:10:23 AM »
i enjoy both.. equally

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2010, 07:21:44 AM »
Both.

I get satisfaction from reloading when i manage to load consistently and accurately. I am a small volume reloader, i use a single stage press and do the rest by hand, but i use micrometers, uniformers, electronic scales. I sort brass and bullets by weight, etc...I weigh powder to the last stick (Usually that is 0.003 grams). If i don't feel like handloading, i don't do it. I load only about 300 rounds per year.


Of course, i get satisfaction from shooting as well. I am now practicing prone and kneeling at 50 yards with a .22 and i feel good when i put 10 shots into the 2" target shooting offhand and hoping to move to 100 by summer. It also is rewarding to get .25" groups at 100 of the bench. I only have 3 rifles and my daugther has 1 - all hunting rifles, but we can put 3-5 bullets through the same hole (literally) at 50 yards, including with the muzzleloader.   My 4th and last rifle purchase will be in a caliber for which high quality brass is available, in a rifle capable of 0.5 MOA.

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Re: Is it the reloading or is it the shooting?
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 11:21:44 AM »
Both for me. I grew up watching pop load his own then we headed out to the range to test them out. I guess it has always been in my blood.

I try to always buy bulk on the things I shoot he most to get added savings but it rarely turns out that way, I just shoot it up faster.

I have several rifles and handguns that have never seen factory ammo of any sort, and some I actually prefer to buy factory for since they shoot it so good, I hate to burn up the components trying to best it. Not talking BR groups, but well within acceptable parameters for the hunting done with them. So for these couple I simply buy several boxes of ammo when I catch it on sale and try to keep at least a hundred or so rounds from the same lot for them in the closet.

I do enjoy the satisfaction of a new challenge, and working with a new caliber. I also enjoy loading up ammo that will shoot better than I can, and knowing I put it together from random components selected to do a precise job.