Author Topic: Anne Coulter on Clinton's pal, Fred Thompson (Read 6151 times)

Fazak · « **on:** October 13, 2007, 10:08:06 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20071011/cm_ucac/fredsawyerandhuckabeefinn

Interesting read.

Heavy C · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2007, 03:16:03 PM »

IMO what Anne Coulter says holds as much water as a sieve. BTW, even though you try to poke holes in the other Republican candidates you should come to the realization that Ron Paul is still a zero.

Fazak · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2007, 03:30:21 PM »

Just posting an article. I thought this part was interesting.

In 1999, Sen. Fred Thompson joined legal giants like Sens. Jim Jeffords, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins to vote against removing Bill Clinton from office for perjury.

But, as The New York Times recently said, Thompson "agonized over what he saw as two 'bad choices.'"

What bad choices? Punishing a multiple felon or not punishing him? This wasn't exactly a job for King Solomon, pal.

The Times reported that calls from Thompson's Tennessee constituents showed that they "overwhelmingly favored removing President Bill Clinton from office."

So Thompson could either: (1) Follow the Constitution and make his constituents happy or, (2) disregard the Constitution and make his Hollywood friends happy.

Swampman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2007, 04:41:38 PM »

I think Fred did what he thought was best for the country. After the primary who will you vote for? It won't be Ron Paul. Ron seems like a nice guy but he's kinda goofy in the debates. He can't win.

I'm thinking Hillary's pretty much got the election sewn up anyway. I'm not sure I even care anymore. I don't think this country can be saved.

magooch · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2007, 05:28:47 AM »

Swampman, hey buddy, never give up on America; we've made it past many tougher times than these and survived Presidents like Jimma Carter and Lyndon B. Johnson. I will admit that the thought of Hitlary is daunting to say the least, but we'll have to deal with that horror if it materializes. She might just be the shock treatment that this country needs to jerk us back to our senses. People might realize that as many warts as the Republicans might have, it's nothing compared to the Neolibs that are running the Dumbycrat Party.

rockbilly · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:04:25 AM »

swampman. This country can be saved, but everyone will have do do their part. As I see it, too many people let someone else do the thinking for them. Granted the chance is small, but any candidate can win the election with the support of the people, several years ago Ross Perot did not stand a chance according to a lot of people, but had Ross not pulled out at the last minute there is a very good possibility that he could have been president. If there is a candidate that you support, then get behind him and give them a push, a big name with deep pockets can be defeated if it is the will of the people.

Prior to Ross's craw-fish move I had a lot of respect for him, but after he pulled out...........oh well he is off the radar screen now, so why complain!

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:08:28 AM »

   The column by Ann Coulter does lead me to reassess Mike Huckabee because one of our fellow GB members here warned me not to take Huckabee too seriously, indicating that in some cases he is a "closet liberal".

  So, for those reasons I will check him further...but that doesn't mean Ron Paul looks any more feasible to me.

   That refusal by Fred Thompson to vote for Clinton's ouster could have been for any of a number of issues that loomed just below the horizon !

   I do know that some Republicans (not just Fred) were not anxious to kick Clinton out...simply because that would have put Gore in:... in the driver's seat for the next election...and we all know how close that election was.

   Possibly he showed remarkable prescience by avoiding just that situation...

BTW: Guys, please vote for the most conservative candidate available, come next November. You know that any liberal will try to cut the legs from under our military..even while they are at war..

Heavy C · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2007, 03:31:24 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 14, 2007, 07:08:28 AM

BTW: Guys, please vote for the most conservative candidate available, come next November. You know that any liberal will try to cut the legs from under our military..even while they are at war..

Boy ain't that the truth! If a Democrat were voted into office not only would the military be on shaky ground, but our taxes would go up, gun ownership would be under attack, and last but not least we would be prime for another terrorist attack. Not to mention my earlier post of my job being in jeopardy. Yes, the glass would definitely be half empty.

jh45gun · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:33:36 PM »

Another case of folks thinking as Republicans and conservatives we all listen to Rush every day, Buy every Book Ann Coulter writes and the only news we watch is Fox news. Just is not true.

ironglow · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2007, 12:46:48 AM »

J45gun;

Just as we tend to think the libs only tune into CNN for their news..shucks, they also have ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times, Wash Post

and a whole manure speader full of blogs....plus "Airhead America "..LOL

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2007, 03:58:38 PM »

A lot didn't like Nixon, but he was right about the silent majority. They are still out there and they are a lot of us! We can and we will prevail. A few setbacks here and there only strengthen.

Maybe Fred saw the reality of how destabilizing a Gore Admin would have been. Lets face it, Gore is not a very stable personality. Many Dems have even said that. As mad as I was that Bill wasn't removed or resigned, in hind site I'm glad he wasn't. Maybe I'm sounding like the Paulies about Fred? Oh well...

Sourdough · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:08:02 PM »

That very point was pointed out to me during the period that Clinton was under the spotlight. Do you really want Al Gore as president? I'm glad Fred voted as he did. I don't have a problem with it. As for Ron Paul, he don't stand a snowballs chance in San Diago.

jh45gun · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:08:24 PM »

Fazak the more you try to get dirt on Fred the funnier it gets here you tried it and several members told you a very good explanation why not to vote out Klinton as Gore would be a disaster as President. That Judge in England was very wise to put the ruleing out and what a farce Gore's movie was. Shows the mentality of the libs giving a idiot like Gore a oscar and a peace prize. I just saw where one scientist said Gore was goofy and more scientist should too but they would be afraid speaking out may hurt their grant funding. This guy did not care said he did not need any grant money so he called a spade a spade.

ironglow · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:01:21 PM »

I have often wondered if most folks actually realize how politicians use "grant money" to exert their own will and push their own agendas..

If anyone thought differently, they can see exactly how it works in this instance.

nomosendero · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2007, 03:02:29 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 14, 2007, 07:08:28 AM

The column by Ann Coulter does lead me to reassess Mike Huckabee because one of our fellow GB members here warned me not to take Huckabee too seriously, indicating that in some cases he is a "closet liberal".

  So, for those reasons I will check him further...but that doesn't mean Ron Paul looks any more feasible to me.

   That refusal by Fred Thompson to vote for Clinton's ouster could have been for any of a number of issues that loomed just below the horizon !

   I do know that some Republicans (not just Fred) were not anxious to kick Clinton out...simply because that would have put Gore in:... in the driver's seat for the next election...and we all know how close that election was.

   Possibly he showed remarkable prescience by avoiding just that situation...

BTW: Guys, please vote for the most conservative candidate available, come next November. You know that any liberal will try to cut the legs from under our military..even while they are at war..

I don't know if that member is me, but if not not, add me to the list. The Huckster is a big lib, his stance on hunting, gun control & abortion is good, though to be in office in AR he has to do well with the first 2, but he is a Socialist & loves the dependent class. He is another slick one, I have watched him tooo long.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2007, 03:57:00 PM »

I can't beleave this Ron Paul versus Fred Thompson debate even exhists. If you look at ALL the polls this Ron Paul guys doesn't even exhist.

Now if we want to debate and argue about a republican candidate for President lets talk about Guliani, Romney and Thompson. Not some guy who can't even get a showing in the polls. Ron Paul is kinda like some of these conspiricy theories they only exhist in imagination.

Heavy C · « **Reply #16 on:** October 16, 2007, 04:28:57 PM »

+1 on that. I'm all Ron Pauled out!

Fazak · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2007, 05:48:09 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on October 16, 2007, 03:57:00 PM

I can't beleave this Ron Paul versus Fred Thompson debate even exhists. If you look at ALL the polls this Ron Paul guys doesn't even exhist.

Not true at all.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Ron Paul has the most successful record of all GOP candidates who have participated in straw polls.

His candidacy is real folks,... it's time to own up.

jh45gun · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2007, 08:56:37 PM »

Quote from: Fazak on October 16, 2007, 05:48:09 PM

Quote from: billy_56081 on October 16, 2007, 03:57:00 PM
I can't beleave this Ron Paul versus Fred Thompson debate even exhists. If you look at ALL the polls this Ron Paul guys doesn't even exhist.

Not true at all.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Ron Paul has the most successful record of all GOP candidates who have participated in straw polls.

His candidacy is real folks,... it's time to own up.

For the love of Pete Fazak get a life Straw pollls mean NOTHING. The Internet Polls are really a ZERO they can be so skewed it is not funny only a naive hopefull like you would think other wise and I say this not to be mean but I really am starting to pity you as your in for a HUGE LET DOWN. Ron Paul has as much chance of winning as I do and I am not running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ironglow · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2007, 11:50:43 PM »

LOL....Internet polls..LOL

They bear NO RESEMBLANCE to any real figures ! There are a couple REAL problems with these polls that ANYONE should recognize !

Anyone can vote in those polls;

1) No need to be a registered Republican/Conservative or even registered at all.

2) No age parameters.

3) No national parameters, Brazilians, Greeks, Russians and Nigerians can vote.

4) Loonie left bloggers and their stooges can vote.

5) The loonie left can, and probably does, gang up to skew the poll.

6) As with the major media the poll by it's wording, can skew the results.

For even the slightest bit of accuracy, the groups mentioned above must be discounted
because they won't be pulling levers for any Rep/Cons candidate on election day.
For reasons such as #6, I don't place much credence on major media polls.

For a more accurate poll, one must look to polls that are taken among " registered
and likely Republican. Conservative voters", and then hope you have an unbiased pollster.

For obvious reasons, internet polls are worth less than the time they take to look at them.

ncsurveyor · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:19:44 AM »

Quote from: Fazak on October 16, 2007, 05:48:09 PM

Quote from: billy_56081 on October 16, 2007, 03:57:00 PM
I can't beleave this Ron Paul versus Fred Thompson debate even exhists. If you look at ALL the polls this Ron Paul guys doesn't even exhist.

Not true at all.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Ron Paul has the most successful record of all GOP candidates who have participated in straw polls.

His candidacy is real folks,... it's time to own up.

I would ask that you provide some rhetoric other than Dr. Pauls site.

Check out my website "duba duba duba dot ncsurveyor is the greatest surveyor in the world dot com" and you will see how I was voted greatest surveyor in the world, AND most likely to be mistaken for Brad Pitt in a dark room filled with drunk women.

Heavy C · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:16:54 AM »

Good one!

jh45gun · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2007, 07:56:19 AM »

Quote

Check out my website "duba duba duba dot ncsurveyor is the greatest surveyor in the world dot com" and you will see how I was voted greatest surveyor in the world, AND most likely to be mistaken for Brad Pitt in a dark room filled with drunk women.

Ran into one last night was pretty entertaining.

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:56:35 PM »

I was hoping to be done with it too.....Paulie want a cracker?

ironglow · « **Reply #24 on:** October 27, 2007, 04:44:55 AM »

Curiously; most of us here claim to be conservative (in differing degrees) in our politics.

When I hear someone trying to boost "their guy" by trying to dig dirt on others, I say to myself, "that sounds like a Lib/Democrat trick !"

Traditionally, conservatives campaign on a generally more positive note than liberal/Democrats do...

So Fazak....

Here are some issues that concern genuine conservative voters, please give us Ron Paul's stance on these issues:

1) Conservatives like a strong military.....Where does Ron Paul stand ?

2) Conservatives favor a defense of marriage act.. where does Paul stand ?

3) Since 1973, conservatives have fought the abortion holocaust..where's Paul ?

4) Most conservatives support home schooling choice...where's Ron ?

5) Being realists, conservatives back the "war on terror"...what's his position ?

6) Poland and Pearl harbor taught us that isolationism is stupid...Where's Ron on that ?

7) Generally, conservatives frown on special privileges for "gays"...Ron's words of wisdom ?

The war on terror will require increased funding for FBI and CIA..what say Paul ?

9) The Defense dept will need greatly increased funding..will veteran Ron Paul comply ?

10) Schools providing contraceptives for pre-teen children..what's Ron's view ?

11) The Islamofacists won't quit..they must be hunted and destroyed around the world..does Ron Paul have the stomach for it ?

...So FAZAK, instead of running down the other candidates, try pointing out the good things about yours..

By answering these few questions with total candor..you may convert some to Ron Paul...if he is as good

as you say his views on these important conservative questions could win some over !

jh45gun · « **Reply #25 on:** October 27, 2007, 09:18:56 AM »

Quote

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress."

And the question on that is how many get voted on and how many get thrown in the wastebasket?

ironglow · « **Reply #26 on:** October 27, 2007, 10:42:21 AM »

TM7;

Ron Paul scored pretty good on 9 of the 12 points you brought up ! Not bad !

..Now let's see how he does on the questions I put forth.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 27, 2007, 03:14:08 PM »

I'd really like to hear those questions answered. Thay are pretty important ones to me. So what is this unknown guy Ron Paul? A conservative? Ya know how much money have people wasted on this guy who doesn't stand the slightest chance of getting the nod?

ironglow · « **Reply #28 on:** October 27, 2007, 05:17:23 PM »

Fazak;

Here's your chance to boost your guy's chances..although TM7's points were interesting , they didn't answer the questions I posed;

how about answering those 11 easy questions ?

Any Ron Paul fans want to answer those questions ?

Surely you are not boosting his candidacy without knowing where he stands on these 11 conservative issues !

Fazak · « **Reply #29 on:** October 28, 2007, 07:26:43 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 27, 2007, 05:17:23 PM

Fazak;

Here's your chance to boost your guy's chances..although TM7's points were interesting , they didn't answer the questions I posed;

how about answering those 11 easy questions ?

Any Ron Paul fans want to answer those questions ?

Surely you are not boosting his candidacy without knowing where he stands on these 11 conservative issues !

The "questions" you posed are nothing but statements which reflect your own views.

In any event,.. Ron Paul stands for rolling back the scope of the Federal Government to levels which are supported by the Constitution.

Some people understand the wisdom of that,... some don't.

The ones who don't, "will" soon enough.