Author Topic: Anne Coulter on Clinton's pal, Fred Thompson (Read 6427 times)

Sourdough · « **Reply #30 on:** October 28, 2007, 08:46:26 AM »

Fazak: Check out his standings with the man on the street. The ones that vote, not the ones that don't have time. Retired communities are a good place to start. Most retirees vote, they have the time to get informed on the issues, and they have time to get to the polling places. Few of them have any interest in your candidate. Ron Paul is just not in the running. Plus he could not beat Hillery anyway in a National election. This election is going to be decided by the middle of the road (swing) voters. Those middle of the road voters will vote for Hillery before they would vote for Ron Paul.

ironglow · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2007, 09:47:54 AM »

No matter that it should not count, politics is a good share "window dressing", not fair for the thinking voter,

Lately, elections have been won or lost on very narrow margins, say.from 1% to 4% difference.

I would guess (and your guess is as good as mine), that perhaps at least 10%-15%base their vote on looks,

style, elan, charisma, humor and pizazz...

Does Ron Paul exhibit more or better looks, style, elan, charisma, humor or pizazz than most of the others ?

No need to answer aloud..just to yourself..

Fazak · « **Reply #32 on:** October 28, 2007, 09:59:57 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 28, 2007, 09:47:54 AM

style, elan, charisma, humor and pizazz...

Does Ron Paul exhibit more or better looks, style, elan, charisma, humor or pizazz than most of the others ?

superficial characteristics which appeal to superficial voters,....

Sourdough · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2007, 10:33:41 AM »

But those are the swing voters that count.

Heavy C · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2007, 11:59:37 AM »

Fazak,

My question to you, since you're such an ardent defender of Ron Paul, is will you vote for the Republican nominee? Keeping in mind that RP won't be it, or will you stay home in essence giving the dems another vote?

jh45gun · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2007, 01:35:49 PM »

Starting to wonder if fazak is a hillary supporter and just trying to get us to waste a vote voting for RP?

powderman · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:06:15 PM »

Quote from: jh45gun on October 28, 2007, 01:35:49 PM

Starting to wonder if fazak is a hillary supporter and just trying to get us to waste a vote voting for RP?

YEP. POWDERMAN. $:-\$ $:-\$

Fazak · « **Reply #37 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:07:51 PM »

Quote from: Heavy C on October 28, 2007, 11:59:37 AM

Fazak,

My question to you, since you're such an ardent defender of Ron Paul, is will you vote for the Republican nominee? Keeping in mind that RP won't be it, or will you stay home in essence giving the dems another vote?

I won't vote for anyone who has lied to me.

Heavy C · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:22:20 PM »

Well that's truly unfortunate. Ron Paul is lying to you - making you think he actually has a chance, and you're planning to vote for him.

jh45gun · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:32:39 PM »

Quote from: Fazak on October 28, 2007, 03:07:51 PM

Quote from: Heavy C on October 28, 2007, 11:59:37 AM
Fazak,

My question to you, since you're such an ardent defender of Ron Paul, is will you vote for the Republican nominee? Keeping in mind that RP won't be it, or will you stay home in essence giving the dems another vote?

I won't vote for anyone who has lied to me.

Sheesh and how do you know they have or have not any of them for that matter. Like it has been pointed out they all have faults of some sort none are perfect and that certainly includes RP. I am sure all of them have some things that they maybe keeping from us that we may or may not ever know. RP is no different.

Fazak · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:33:30 PM »

Quote from: Heavy C on October 28, 2007, 03:22:20 PM

Well that's truly unfortunate. Ron Paul is lying to you - making you think he actually has a chance, and you're planning to vote for him.

A vote for anyone other than Ron Paul is just a vote against yourself,... the candidate is immaterial.

They're all puppets tied to the same string.

It's fun for the people to believe that they're a part of it all,... but to our current form of government you're nothing but a beast of burden,... and many will vote in favor of continuing to be a beast of burden.

Taking that fact into consideration,... maybe the government is correct in viewing them as such.

jh45gun · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2007, 03:38:56 PM »

Geez and folks accuse me here of having my head in the sand.

RP has just as many faults as the rest of them. Ya just got to pick your poison and regardless the guy is not going to come close to be nominated let alone winning.

Echo4Lima · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2007, 07:16:30 PM »

Fazak , you are lost.........

powderman · « **Reply #43 on:** October 29, 2007, 04:37:51 AM »

fazak. I really feel sorry that you are being forced to live in America, sure is hard on ya. Maybe you and tm7 and dee could move in together,like in mexico, or any other America bashing nation. I feel sorry for ya. POWDERMAN.

Heavy C · « **Reply #44 on:** October 29, 2007, 05:10:16 AM »

Quote from: Echo4Lima on October 28, 2007, 07:16:30 PM

Fazak , you are lost.........

+1

Fazak · « **Reply #45 on:** October 29, 2007, 06:54:09 AM »

Quote from: powderman on October 29, 2007, 04:37:51 AM

fazak. I really feel sorry that you are being forced to live in America, sure is hard on ya. Maybe you and tm7 and dee could move in together,like in mexico, or any other America bashing nation. I feel sorry for ya. POWDERMAN.

It's more appropriate for people like you,..who worship big government,.. to align yourself with the political party which has always advocated such things.

They're known as Democrats.

jh45gun · « **Reply #46 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:38:47 AM »

Quote from: Fazak on October 29, 2007, 06:54:09 AM

Quote from: powderman on October 29, 2007, 04:37:51 AM
fazak. I really feel sorry that you are being forced to live in America, sure is hard on ya. Maybe you and tm7 and dee could move in together,like in mexico, or any other America bashing nation. I feel sorry for ya. POWDERMAN.

It's more appropriate for people like you,..who worship big government,.. to align yourself with the political party which has always advocated such things.

They're known as Democrats.

Yep your lost!

Fazak · « **Reply #47 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:41:05 AM »

Quote from: jh45gun on October 29, 2007, 07:38:47 AM

Quote from: Fazak on October 29, 2007, 06:54:09 AM
Quote from: powderman on October 29, 2007, 04:37:51 AM
fazak. I really feel sorry that you are being forced to live in America, sure is hard on ya. Maybe you and tm7 and dee could move in together,like in mexico, or any other America bashing nation. I feel sorry for ya. POWDERMAN.

It's more appropriate for people like you,..who worship big government,.. to align yourself with the political party which has always advocated such things.

They're known as Democrats.

Yep your lost!

So Republicans have traditionally been the party of big government?

Fazak · « **Reply #48 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:44:08 AM »

Here's what Reagan had to say about it during his inaugural address.

government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

I guess Reagan was "lost" too,... eh?

jh45gun · « **Reply #49 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:47:32 AM »

Now your grasping.

ironglow · « **Reply #50 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:52:13 AM »

Fazak;

Let's not destroy the context of R. Reagan's words. He was not totally against government, but he was against big, bloated government.

One who is totally against any governmental order is either an Anarchist or a Nihilist..take your choice !

Traditionally, conservatives are neither !

Fazak · « **Reply #51 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:07:22 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 29, 2007, 07:52:13 AM

big, bloated government.

Such as is being endorsed by contemporary Republicans,..

billy_56081 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 29, 2007, 10:47:26 AM »

There is only one person on here who uses the prpaganda words of the Nazis. It's not Powderman, IG or JH45. Fear mongering and a hidden enemy have often been the precurser to a vile form of governtment coming to power after a popular "for the people" revolt. In a utopian dream we could all self rule and there would be no need for government at all. Unfortunatly there is no Utopia.

I see now that the Zionist word has been shown for what it truly is. A Nazi propaganda word that Neocon is now a new secret enemy word. And yes facism may come to America, it will come on the backs of the people that see a secret hidden enemy in an open society.

America is the shining star of the world that is why the rest of the world is so envious of us. And if you do not like America you are free to leave. Can any here tell me a place better than this country?

jh45gun · « **Reply #53 on:** October 29, 2007, 12:16:52 PM »

You boys that dish it out should be able to take it too!

Heavy C · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2007, 12:39:24 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 29, 2007, 10:01:41 AM

Quote from: Fazak on October 29, 2007, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: ironglow on October 29, 2007, 07:52:13 AM

big, bloated government.

Such as is being endorsed by contemporary Republicans,..

Fazak,,,these guys are neocon stooges and rude as well. Don't stoop to their level if you can help it. Any intelligent man in a debate knows when the opponent stoops to ridicule, misinformation, rudeness, and insults that they lost the debate and means we're having an impact on their scheme of things. Frankly, I believe we'd all be better off if powderman and a few others immigrated to someplace that wholely embraces their narrow ideas since they bring up the idea.. Guess where that would be? Hint..they could be crypto-______! You have meant a real fascist when he thinks only his ideas are worthy of freedom of speech. Fascism will come to the United States wrapped in a flag and wearing a cross.

..TM7

I have yet to read anywhere that only what we say is right and you are wrong. I agree that if you find a worthy candidate you should support him/her. In this case what I and everyone else is saying is that odds are pretty favorable that Ron Paul will not be on the Republican ticket for President. Would it not make sense to vote Republican anyway regardless of who the candidate may be because Hillary will almost surely be the Democratic candidate. I don't think there is anyone on this forum that firmly believes we will all be better off with Hillary as president. That will be the epitomy of big bloated government. It is misguided to think you should stay home and not vote because you would be voting against yourself - what is that??? TM7 you strike me as a bright individual; surely you can see the fault in that logic.

Heavy C

RaySendero · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2007, 01:20:04 PM »

Quote from: Fazak on October 13, 2007, 10:08:06 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20071011/cm_ucac/fredsawyerandhuckabeefinn

Interesting read.

Interesting read? - I must have missed her point(s)!

Did she make a point?

ironglow · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2007, 01:45:09 PM »

OK Fazak;

Altogether now; let's see if we can figure this out..... who is more likely to coddle illigal aliens, continue the abortion holocaust, try to seize our guns, raise our taxes, cut our freedom, sell out the US to the UN, stop all hunting on public land, institute socialized medicine, have our children raised by the "village" rather than ourselves,
crush freedom of religion, grow the welfare rolls, institute more Marxism into schools, accelerate the growth of the "nanny state" and in general boost
Socialism/Marxism in our culture :

Is it likely to be:

A) Rudy Guliani .... or Hillary

B) Fred Thompson.... or Hillary

C) Mitt Romney.... or Hillary

D) John McCain.... or Hillary

E) Duncan Hunter.... or Hillary

F) Mike Huckabee .... or Hillary

Undoubtedly, it will be a choice of one of those combinations A thru F..

So, let's gather all our brainpower into one gigantic effort and see if we can decide which way to vote makes the best sense, shall we ?

Of course, there is the other option, either refusing to vote or voting fore a "can't win" 3rd party..thus boosting Hillary's chances.

Heavy C · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2007, 01:57:24 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on October 29, 2007, 01:45:09 PM

Of course, there is the other option, either refusing to vote or voting fore a "can't win" 3rd party..thus boosting Hillary's chances.

Thank you IG! I didn't think it was that difficult of a concept to grasp.

powderman · « **Reply #58 on:** October 29, 2007, 03:12:16 PM »

IRONGLOW. Talking sense will get you nowhere, it goes right over their heads. hate to burst yer bubble tm 7, but the state of Israel was established by God, well before 1840. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #59 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:18:46 AM »

tm7. I have my own Bible, and don't know any Rabbis. God formed Israel, the romans made palestine from land God gave Israel. I'd tell you to look it up, but doubt that you could. You seem to hate Israel, can't stand America, maybe palestine is where you need to be. You could take a few friends with you. POWDERMAN.