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Offline Walks with a gimp

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Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« on: October 13, 2007, 02:40:29 PM »
  Found this on youtube..


         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF9zVVdLRBI
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 03:08:51 PM »
From what i saw and heard he was getting a good snap closeure but was not had very good latch engagement , could have been caused by excess oil on the latch shelf or improper latch mating surface contact .

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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 05:04:44 PM »
Read the "Pop open medicine" thread in the FAQs, if you can't solve the problem, contact H&R if it's a factory fitted barrel. ;)

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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 06:12:49 PM »
Another observation... He needs to be wearing safety glasses when shooting; especially with that specific weapon.
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 11:29:29 PM »
Here is what he said later down the thread.

"Simply was a broken part. It opened after the chamber pressure dropped, still disconcerting though. I had never had this problem with any other H&R products, and was fixed right away. I believe it was an isolated thing. There is a Handi-rifle forum at graybeard outdoors site, should find it on google. Gives you a really good idea of how devoted handi-rifle owners can be."

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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 11:33:57 PM »
He also said this...

"I have had several of these in different calibers and this is the first problem I've ever had. Opened up a few times in a row, so I didn't shoot it anymore. Is a latch prob. For the price, you can't beat them, and my friends get tired of me trying to get them to buy one since they like their repeaters. lol. H and R is fixing it under warranty. I recommend them, and you will like it."

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Sounds like a Handiolic to me. ;D
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 11:40:47 PM »
Here is another reason for a "break open"

"I just got one of these rifles in .22-250, it did the same thing. Scary when you see the action open right after firing. I found out that the action lock was all gummed up with the oil that comes on it from the factory. I cleaned it up really well and cycled the action a few times, worked like a charm after that. Turns out it was my fault for being too eager to put rounds down range lol."

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Thus the reason for a through cleaning...before shooting ;)
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2007, 03:36:15 AM »
Quote from: SuperstitionCoues on October 13, 2007, 06:12:49 PM
Another observation... He needs to be wearing safety glasses when shooting; especially with that specific weapon.

 Yes I agree , scared me just to watch That.
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2007, 05:09:55 AM »
When you watch the video concentrate on the shoulder or butt of the rifle and you will see that the recoil pushes the shoulder back and then when the shoulder starts to travel forward the rifle pops open.

The bullet was long gone when it happened.

I've had it happen to me when I didn't wipe the latch clean of excess oil when I cleaned it, and put a little too much oil on the latch area, causing it to not lock up properly!

It's got to be dry!
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2007, 05:13:53 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo47 on October 14, 2007, 05:09:55 AM
When you watch the video concentrate on the shoulder or butt of the rifle and you will see that the recoil pushes the shoulder back and then when the shoulder starts to travel forward the rifle pops open.

The bullet was long gone when it happened.

I've had it happen to me when I didn't wipe the latch clean after a good cleaning, and put a little too much oil on the latch area!

It's got to be dry!

It's not the bullet I'm worried about.  Burning gases, particles and a big piece of brass coming at you, all because of a mechanical failure and the laws of physics.
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2007, 05:17:59 AM »
Again the gases, and bullet is long gone when it happens, and nothing in the chamber or case left to throw the empty back at you.

It's a little startling when it happens, but it's the oil or small amount of gunk that doesn't allow the two metel sufaces to mate properly.

I haven't heard of NEF being sued yet from any of the survivors of such a mishape as you speak of, and I don't think they would be in business long if it were to happen!

It's all about knowing your rifle and what makes it work!
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2007, 05:18:53 AM »
The only danger from a pop open is from ejected brass in ejector equipped H&Rs, the 500 S&W Handi isn't one of em, they've only been produced with extractors. Still, shooting with eye protection is a good idea with ANY firearm, in fact it's manditory at my range, along with hearing protection, or you don't shoot there. ;)

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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 06:41:25 AM »
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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 09:37:50 PM »
Tim:

IT's a great idea to wear them anytime when shootng.

A few yrs ago on a 105 degree day two of us were taking turns shooting prairie dogs with my Sako fairly rapidly. The barrel was plenty hot. I kept check to keep it cool enough we could hold it bare handed, but, that's about the way it was  kept for three hours or more.

Bud walked over the hump and came back to tell me there's a bunch over there.  So we gathered things up an moved.  I left one in the chamber during this 15 minutes to get set up.

First shot, it blew a primer and unburnt powder hit my contact lense.  Was mighty lucky as no harm was done other than the lense was ruined. But, sure am thankful I was wearing them.

Gunsmth said: "hot loads, hot guns, hot days, lots of shooting it'll happen everytime".

I wear shooting glasses now.

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Re: Why does this happen and what's the fix?
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 04:38:49 PM »
I am having this problem with my 500 also.  Just thought you should know the action on mine is coming open fast enough to effect the point of impact on target.  Accurate when it stayed closed but slings the bullets low when it opens up.
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