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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2008, 11:05:14 AM »
If you are not tied down to cutting the case how about necking down a 38-55 to .22 cal. You could also neck down the 444 case but the full length 444 case might be a little much capacity for a .22 cal so you might have to go up to the .243 or .25 cal. If you really want to have to cut the case then you could start with a 22 hornet barrel and have it reamed to a 444 case necked to .22 and cut down to a finished length of say 1.5". That should give you more case capacity than a .223 Remington and using either of these cases will give you a rimmed case.

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2008, 04:14:31 AM »
try the 22/6mm or the 224tth great all around varmint round

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2008, 08:27:49 AM »
22-454 Casull.

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new Wild Cat 458 wsm mod.
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2009, 04:27:48 PM »
What about a 458 wsm?   Cut the neck off and size with a 30 degree shoulder.  With a brake and a mild load it shoots like a 222 Rem.. Anyone done any work like this?  Want to use it as a fursur hog killer!  We feel the range will be up to 150 yards.  Need more information on powders, bullet grains etc.  Like to hear back from you guys. thanks.


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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2009, 11:33:37 AM »
At some point slightly forward of the belt, a belted magnum case diameter is the same size as the base diameter of the 45-70 cartridge.

You could short-chamber, using a magnum reamer, then form brass using the matching cut-down dies.  You could have, for example, a 2 inch long rimmed 264 by using a 264 Winchester reamer and dies. 

The benefit of this method is not having to buy expensive custom reamers and dies

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2009, 11:51:57 AM »
How about a .357 Maximum case necked down to take .224" bullets?  Could also be done with with 6mm, .25 cal, 6.5mm, .270, 7mm, and .30 cal bullets if one were so inclined.

And I'm suddenly curious...I had asked on this forum many years ago about an 8mm wildcat to use in a T/C Contender that would accurately shoot 125 grain bullets.  I wonder if the .357 Maximum would be a good parent case for that sort of a wildcat.

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 07:18:20 AM »
That is not a Bad idea make a longer version of the 256 win or make it with a longer neck that will allow for larger bullets like 117 grain.

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 09:25:29 AM »
How about a .357 Maximum case necked down to take .224" bullets?  Could also be done with with 6mm, .25 cal, 6.5mm, .270, 7mm, and .30 cal bullets if one were so inclined.

And I'm suddenly curious...I had asked on this forum many years ago about an 8mm wildcat to use in a T/C Contender that would accurately shoot 125 grain bullets.  I wonder if the .357 Maximum would be a good parent case for that sort of a wildcat.

Already have that one , its a 224GNR , basicly its a rimmed 222 with 223 speeds , fun round to shoot and does wonders on P-dogs and Groundhogs .

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 11:35:11 AM »
Have you made a desicion on amything new?

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 11:39:52 AM »
30 Bellm - 444 case shortened and necked down to 30cal
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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2009, 11:50:31 AM »
I did not see the .219 Donaldson Wasp on the list of suggestions. Cases from cheap and readily available .30-30 cases.   Cases needs three or four steps to form.  case needs shortened and reamed.  That seems to fit your intial critera

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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2009, 01:04:03 PM »
I did not see the .219 Donaldson Wasp on the list of suggestions. Cases from cheap and readily available .30-30 cases.   Cases needs three or four steps to form.  case needs shortened and reamed.  That seems to fit your intial critera

Cartridge has a history of accuracy.

Great cartridge but too easy.  Get formed 7mmUS and run in die.
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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2009, 04:48:47 AM »
How about a 17DT from a shortened, blown out and improved 220 Russian ?
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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2009, 07:41:49 AM »
For a rechambered .243 you could go up to a 6 MM remington improved and form it on 6.5 x 57 R brass and have a rimmed .243 that wouldn't need to be loaded to 243 Win. pressure to have the performance.
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Re: Looking for a new Wild Cat
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2009, 08:51:36 PM »
Throwing a couple of ideas out:

.303 British case trimmed to 2" even, necked to 6 or 6.5mm (no reason it couldn't be done smaller, too, but those are the two that came to mind immediately) with shoulder blown out to say 25 degrees, maybe make the body just below the shoulder .450" (it's .455" at the base and .401" just below the shoulder on original cases).

6.5x50mm Japanese trimmed to 1.775", necked to ..224" or .257", 25 degree shoulder and .445" body below the shoulder (.451" at the base and .409" just below the shoulder for the original).