We're alot like Michigan here in N.W.Ohio.(Toledo area) We've had some plant close downs, housing market is way down. There has been house's up for sale for over 6 months and price reduced signs, no money down, still can't sell them. Couple of the big car company's union's have settled contracts, but any new people getting hired start at half of what the usual wage use to be. Now it's $8-$9 to start, instead of $16-$18 an hour. I can head to Columbus, which is about 2.5 hours south, and their economy is in much better shape. gypsyman