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Offline teamnelson

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Katahdin Barrel w/Pistol Grip
« on: June 18, 2003, 06:37:15 AM »
I was over on the TC rifle section reading about 45/70, and the suggestion came up to use the 18" Katahdin barrel w/ a pistol
grip. Since I'm new at long barreled handguns, this sounds a mite
wierd to me, so I thought I'd ask around here.

Anyone using an 18" barrel on their pistol? Bench only, or brush too?
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2003, 07:08:27 AM »
(6/18/03)  TeamNelson: I don't have a 18 inch 45/70 barrel, but I do have a super 16 45/70 (muzzle tamer) barrel.  If you want to experience recoil in a pistol the 45/70 will give you that.  Just watch out for the trigger guard spur.  The 45/70 in the Contender is much more pleasant to shoot as a rifle....Ken :D    My load is 42.9 gr IMR 4198 with 300 gr. JHP
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2003, 08:45:38 AM »
Ken55,

Roger that last!

I shoot an older 16 1/2" TC .45-70 pistol w/o a muzzle brake, and every session leaves me with a bruised middle finger knuckle.

The loads are not hot... simply duplicate standard .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield rifle velocity with 405g and 500g lead bullets.

Anyone that thinks a carbine-weight .45-70 kicks hard needs to shoot the pistol version!
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2003, 12:11:13 PM »
I have an 18" bull custom shop barrel in 450 marlin that I shoot as a pistol. It's heavy enough that recoils not much of a problem. Mostly just target shoot with it but it sure is fun to shoot. Raises some eye brows when you pull it out of the case. Raises a few more when you start touching them off. The gun usually shoots 1-1/4" avaerage at 100meters. Shot it at a 200 yd target once just for kicks, had to hold about 14" high to hit center but it still grouped under 3". If you can't tell its one of my favorites. I have shot this barrel as a rifle but I prefer it as a pistol. KN
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2003, 03:17:39 PM »
It's the only way to shot the .444 katahdin. You'll get looks, but that just means you rank real high in 'cool factor'. Isn't that what it's about.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2003, 07:44:54 PM »
(6/18/03) KN: Is this an Encore or a Contender ?  If it is an Encore, does grip design (more space behind trigger guard) make it more user friendly with big bore calibers ?.......Thanks Ken 8)
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2003, 07:53:35 PM »
I sure wish you guys would tewll me how you get your fingers mashed when firing a Contender or an Encore.  I've never had mine mashed or hit.  Maybe I am doing something wrong or right depending on how you look at it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2003, 02:35:28 AM »
MePlat, are shooting any bigbores like the 45-70, .444 or one of the JDJ rounds? The 45-70 is the only one that the trigger guard bangs my knuckle. I shoot right handed and I grip around my shooting hand with my left hand for more support and if not careful the trigger guard will come back and bang my support hand. This only happens with the 45-70 w/break.

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2003, 03:01:51 AM »
Hawkeye:  I still don't understand why.  I have shown some shooters how to hold a Contender and Encore to prevent this without any problem.  I've never had my fingers mashed or hit by anything with one of the mentioned firearms.
It seems to me that if one occasionally get his fingers whacked he would discover a better way to hold.
Help me out on this and please don't get down on me.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2003, 12:32:52 PM »
Ken 55, It's an Encore. And yes if you put both sets of fingers behind the trigger guard it will bite you. I have pretty much trained myself to hold my left middle and index fingers straight out beside the guns when I shoot. Havn't gotten bit sinse I started doing that.

MePlat, I have a 10" Encore in 45/70 that is notorious for drawing blood. (Shooting full house loads). Thats really the pistol that broke me of wraping both sets of fingers around the grips.  One thing I'll mention while were on this subject, I noticed that the sharp corner on the frame where the front of the trigger guard meets the frame was "Pinching my finger" durring recoil. I filed a radius on this edge and have not drawn blood since. Just one of those little things to look at.  KN
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2003, 07:06:40 AM »
(6/22/03)  Meplat: YES we do learn how to hold our 45/70 pistols, so that we dont get bitten.  The problem begins with the fact most of us use a 2 handed hold when shooting our contenders.  Which is ok for most anything until you bust a cap on a 45/70 or other big bores.  I think most first time shooters (novice or experienced) of a T/C big bore are going to experience getting bit.  And yes it is really cool to be out with people shooting and to see their mouths drop wide open when you pull out your 45/70 Contender pistol and blow big holes in the targets.  Most are amazed to see a handgun cartridge that big and very few willing to shoot it.....Ken :biggun:
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2003, 07:15:41 AM »
Ken55:  What do you do when you fire something with a lot more power that a Contender 45/70 such as an Encore 45/70 without a brake and the tapered barrel firing a 550 gr at 1450?
Also even more powerful catridges than a 45/70.  On my first shot out of a Contender I knew not to hold with my weakhand fingers behind the trigger guard.
What intrigues me is people still fire then with their weakhand fingers behind the trigger guard and get them bitten time after time and then wonder why.
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