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Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« on: November 06, 2007, 02:03:03 PM »
I was wondering if any of you have installed a muzzle brake on a 243. Call me crazy but I have thought about it. It's not that the recoil is bad in any way but I would like to have faster target acquisition after firing the rifle. This way if I need a follow up it would be quicker.  Dale
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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 06:31:53 PM »
Well, Dale, If I may suggest something slightly different.  That would be a muzzle blast deflector with a pair of vertical vents, angled slightly forward.  The idea is to reduce muzzle lift without blasting every-body's (including your own) ear drums.  The dual vents is to keep the cross hairs clear of flame and smoke.  (I have a muzzle blast deflector on my 303 and it reduces muzzle blast impact on my ears quite considerably - I plan to incorporate vertical vents in a foresight like addition.  I want to see my bullet strike).  Not unlike Magna-porting.

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 01:14:55 AM »
It sounds like the "muzzle blast deflector" is just another version of a muzzle brake.

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 02:26:58 AM »
Some  varmit shooter use muzzle brakes on small caliber to see the hit.  I don't have one on a 243 but have them on 6RemAI,6Rem and 6x250.

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2007, 03:15:48 PM »
Dale -

I wouldn't even consider doing so, but I don't like brakes even on big boomers.

Make the first shot count.  If you don't have confidence the .243 can do it with one shot, get something larger.

Just my 2 cents since you asked.
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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 12:32:23 AM »
Hi All,

   I am not sure why this rifle was ordered with the brake but it was and this was back in the mid 1960's from the proof marks. I recently acquired this rifle for my collection it's a BSA Majestic Featherweight with BESA Recoil Reducer machined into the muzzle. The rifle weighs 6 1/4lbs sans scope. Now the BESA was developed in 1955 or thereabouts due to calls from customers of these light rifles for reduced recoil. Sure they wanted the light weight but not the recoil  ??? ::).

   I can understand it with 3o cal chamberings and maybe even .270 but .243?  anyway it's the first one I had actually got in my hands so I brought it and are not trying to sort out previous owner caused problems like screwed up bedding and lack of cleaning  :(.

    Well I brought soem Remington factory ammo to try it out after repairing the bedding and barrel channel using wood filler and the first shot with the brake uncovered nearly deafened me and this was outside. There is no way that I could hunt with this without soem hearing protection nor if hunting with someone else like a guide of gamekeeper. I say brake uncovered because it came with a "Range Adaptor" fitted which closes off the brake but using it I would expect to alter point of impact as it's a piece of steel so adds weight to the muzzle.

    Having shot it at the range recoil is mild but the gun still moves off the target, well with me shooting it, but so far accuracy has been inconsistant so I have more work to do. Now for recoil supression and also be more user friendly I would recomend a "Sound Moderator" as they also reduce recoil but of course in the US this makes you a sniper and the BATF certainly frowns on them and if you do get a licence for oen they want a big chunk of money for the privilage  ::)  ???.

    Brakes are fashionable and there is a crowd at our club which have rifles with them mainly tactical type rifles like the SAKO TRG, all black synthetic and bipods, huge tactical scopes and all chambered for 7.62x51 Nato  ??? Whilst they are certainly accurate I cannot see the need for them  :-\ one guy who wanted to get in on the act had a beautiful Parker-Hale 1200P (Presentation model) butchered to take a brake then proceeds to rattle off cheap eastern bloc 30-06 ammo as fast as he can then says it not very accurate  ::) The 1200P is a hunting rifle and as such has a light barrel. It's a fashion statement having a muzzle brake for these folks I am sure  :D mine is a piece of gunmaking history and is part of my little collection and once I get it sorted out and restored I might never hunt with it as I have other rifles to choose from.

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 06:17:56 AM »
....... nearly deafened me and this was outside. There is no way that I could hunt with this ...........
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That' what I meant! :o

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 06:31:46 AM »
It sounds like the "muzzle blast deflector" is just another version of a muzzle brake.

What I am calling a "muzzle blast deflector" is just a tube overhanging the muzzle by about 15mm (1/2inch) and all it does is 'throw' the muzzle blast forward.  This has the effect of lowering the pitch (and intensity) of the blast and effectively moves it further away from the shooter plus directing more of it down range.  It could be made to incorporate a 'brake' of sorts but any restriction in the opening reduces it's effectiveness, it seems.  The No.5 jungle carbine had a 'full on' one.  Mine is primarily a false crown and serves to cover the original bayonet fitting barrel reduction of my No.4 barrel.  I gave it a small clearance between barrel and 'deflector' to give it a little volume.  It works quite well.

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2007, 06:38:27 AM »
....... nearly deafened me and this was outside. There is no way that I could hunt with this ...........

That' what I meant! :o


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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2007, 10:32:45 AM »
Hi All,

     Ahhh a strange thing happened at the range today  ??? two of the guys from the local Gunshop showed up with a customers gun to test and it was a .243 BSA Hunter and yep it too had the BESA Recoil reducer in the barrel. So now from never seeing any to seeing two and both in .243 ................ weird!

    Oh it shot horribly  :-[ again looks like it was never cleaned and poorly looked after, not much bluing left and knocks to the wood. I want a Hunter for my little collection but not a knocked about rough one like that  :'(

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Re: Do any of you muzzle brake a 243?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 08:47:06 PM »
I for one do not like brakes, only own one gun with one, a .338/378 Weatherby it came from the factory that way.  Since I use it for long distance shooting I am usually leaning into it or prone so I use the brake, with the best hearing protection and ear plugs both.  None of the rest of my guns (mostly light weight single shots) have ever been fitted with a brake and I don't want them fitted for one.  I use everything I own for hunting, and sometimes a snap shot is necessary and I don't want to blow my ears out because I had to make a fast shot.  After all I live in Grizzly country.
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