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Offline jpcampbell

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Job openings for gunsmiths
« on: November 06, 2007, 05:57:55 PM »
Gander Mountain is looking for gunsmiths to work in their stores http://thegunsmiths.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=59

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 05:09:15 AM »
The problems with working for Gander Mountain is that why would you want to work for a chain store that quite possibly would only want to pay you $10 to $12 an hour when you can make more than that working for yourself?

Think about it

Gasoline here yesterday was $3.09 per a gallon for the cheap stuff.

Bread in the grocery store was $2.50 a loaf

A new Silverado pick up truck is $35,000

Work for $10 an hour now is like working for minimum wage 8 years ago.

Then you have no benefits and what - a weeks vacation per a year.

40 hours a week, mostly Saturdays and Sundays  and nights - because most sportsmen have to work during the week.  That means that if you like to hunt and fish, you might as well forget it.

Wal Marts and Gander Mountains can fall through a hole in the earth and I would never miss them!

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 04:46:58 PM »
Don't hold back gamemaster!!!  Really I don't know they're pay scale but doubt they are going to get a decent gunsmith for $10 / hour. Maybe some guy to screw on a scope but little else..
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2007, 07:15:30 AM »
I looked on their web site under gunsmithing and they offer a bunch of services, I would think they are looking for qualified gunsmiths and i expect they will pay a fair wage.  I believe they also offer some very good benefit's as well.  If nothing else you will get some very good experience working in a retail environment.

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2007, 04:50:28 PM »
I call them as I see them.

Chain stores are notorious for not paying much for their help.  That is how they make their money.

Here is how I would compare it,

In Pennsylvania, a average school teacher makes $50,000 a year.

They have full paid benefits, even after they retire - where I live.  If their spouse has a state job with even better benefits - such as a State Policeman = they can sell their benefits back to the school district at face value and use their spouses insurance.  At one time, you could go to school for 4 years with financial aid and student loans for $8000 a year.  Which means a total investment of $32,000 for their education.

An average State Policeman makes about $70,000 a year.  You can become a State Policeman just by taking a two year criminology course at an accredited college or by joining the military for 4 years.

Now you take a trained gunsmith that paid $28,000 for his education and also had to pay for his own room and board while he or she was going to school and you have a $40,000 investment.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it wouldn't pay for that man to take a $18,000 a year job working for Gander Mountain.  Because he could have went to school for something else and made twice the money per a year - with good benefits elsewhere.

A good gun shop is not out to make a quick buck.  They are there to sell guns and provide a service that you cannot get somewhere else.  You are not going to take your firearm there to get it reblued, or restocked or to get the barrel crowned or repaired.  All they are there for is to mount scopes or change something to a customers specification or install a sling and swivels or open sights - such as on the new turkey shotguns.  Thats about all you are ever going to do there.

If a customer brings back a gun that isn't working properly, you might look at it and determine what is wrong and what needs to be done to repair it.  Send it back to the manufacturer or exchange it for a new one.

By law they have to have a licensed gun smith on hand to mount scopes and do repairs.  You cannot even refinish a stock legally without a license.  So they will advertise the position and find some dummy that couldn't make it in the real world and pay him peanuts to make them the big bucks and be able to advertise that they have a gunsmith on hand to take care of all your new gun needs.

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2007, 05:56:46 PM »
 Gamemaster
"By law they have to have a licensed gun smith on hand to mount scopes and do repairs.  You cannot even refinish a stock legally without a license.  So they will advertise the position and find some dummy that couldn't make it in the real world and pay him peanuts to make them the big bucks and be able to advertise that they have a gunsmith on hand to take care of all your new gun needs."

 Their ffl would cover any services they offer.
If you look at their web site http://www.gandermountain.com/gunsmithing/ they offer most of the basic servises including custom building.

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2007, 03:46:53 AM »
Would you want Gander Mountain to build you a custom rifle?

It would be like going to Wal Mart for prime rib.

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2007, 02:15:53 PM »
the guy at my local gander mountain does good work. i have seen it. he refinished a friend of mines old browning bolt action. he took it apart and cleaned it well then he reblued it the right way. then he went back and polished it and put a gloss on it. then he took the stock and got bill to put it up to his shoulder and see the right length, etc. he took the stock and got a piece of blackwalnut i had that i sold him and made bill a new stock that fit him better. he took it and stained and sanded and made it to what he thought looked good. then he put a couple coats of clear on it. checked the gun and stocks fit glass bedded it and floated the forearm. then went and took it back apart and checked it and made sure their was no scraches, etc. then torqued the screws back to the way they were suppose to. he made him custom steel mounts and put a leupold 30mm vx3 scope on it for right at $2000. give or take. i would take a gun to the gander mountain given the fact i see his work first. i would do that with any gunsmith. didn't feel like telling you the whole process. he says he makes about $20 a hour which isn't bad. he has benifits for him and the rest of his family is covered by his wifes job. so dan the gunsmith makes it pretty well at gander. and bill ended up with a very nice rifle
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2007, 02:17:07 PM »
ohh yeah and he checkered the forearm and pistol grip
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2007, 06:29:23 PM »
You don't need an FFL to mount a scope, refinish a stock or checker a stock. If mounting a scope the customer can't leave the rifle in your store but no need to just for a scope mount. Stock work doesn't need the part of a firearm that constitute a firearm, thus no FFL needed..
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 12:04:36 PM »
he is an ffl dealer he refinished the barrel and shortened it and crowned it. he used to own a gun shop but closed it
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2007, 03:51:23 PM »
Got a reply from Mike at Gander Mountain on several questions about the job offer,
http://thegunsmiths.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=417
I really think this would work out for someone looking to learn the retail side of the trade.

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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2007, 05:00:10 PM »
sounds good
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Re: Job openings for gunsmiths
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 10:28:47 AM »
Hi Guys,

There might be some gunsmiths looking for a good job.
Miami-Dade County Police Dept. is looking for department
armor. Call Sgt. Steve Mesa at 305-715-5023.