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Offline bluebayou

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stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« on: November 10, 2007, 03:45:12 PM »
I can't break the stock bolt loose.  I have a 10" screwdriver and pliers.  Can't get enough torque on it without camming out.  Should I just restore the wood in place or find a way to brute force it?  I don't see any real reason to take the wood completely off.  It is still bleeding cosmoline out of the wrist. 

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 03:14:48 PM »
blue - you need a socket with a long extension.  And soak the nut with WD-40 or some other penetrating agent - the cosmoline has probably seized it up good and tight.  The ones I have removed seemed not to want to loosen up and it might take a bit of work.  But, once off add some Never Seize and you won'
t ahve to worry about it again.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2007, 05:25:13 PM »
Dude, I wish that it was a nut on the stock bolt.  It requires a flat screwdriver.  I had to go to Tractor Supply to get a 10" flat driver.  I just can't get enough torque with it.  Part of the problem is that the slot is about twice as wide as the tip of this driver.  Going to try kerosene or some kind of penetrating oil from the receiver side when I get a chance.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2007, 10:29:23 PM »
You get a flat straight sided driver bit to fit into the socket and use that to turn the bolt. The trouble your having is caused by the tapered sides to the screwdriver your using for one thing. The British Armourers used a brace and bit to fit Butts.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 01:08:05 AM »
Dude, I wish that it was a nut on the stock bolt.  It requires a flat screwdriver.  I had to go to Tractor Supply to get a 10" flat driver.  I just can't get enough torque with it.  Part of the problem is that the slot is about twice as wide as the tip of this driver.  Going to try kerosene or some kind of penetrating oil from the receiver side when I get a chance.

I've had good luck breaking seized nuts and bolts loose using Kroil.  Its tauted to be the best penetrating fluid available.  I've seen it at well equipped gun shops.  I think Cabelo's sells it, as well.  Brownells sells it also.  A little goes a long way.

Years ago I purchased a set of large, over-sized screw drivers.  I call them "mechanics drivers" because I've only seen mechanics use them.  They have thick, long shafts and large handles.  Unfortunately, they have tapered blades but they will fill the slot on stock bolts pretty well.  I've had some tough bolts on a few Enfields, but so far the big screwdrivers have done the job. The large grip and thick shaft allows for the application of a decent amount of torque. 

Don't know what a set will cost today, but perhaps you could visit a local service shop with your butt stock and ask to use one.  More than likely, if the shop will allow it, the fellows will probably want to help. 

Good luck.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 03:03:19 AM »
bluebayou:  Brithunter clarified what I meant.  I have a gunsmithing screwdriver set that allows you to insert the blade shaft into a 1/4" socket and that'w what I use on the end of a long ratchet extension.  Sorry for the 'confoosun'.  Mikey.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 07:39:45 AM »
I think that I am going to grind the tip of this screwdriver down........well, then it might not be hardened......will go to NAPA or someplace and look for big driver.  Coulnd't find a 1/4" drive flathead socket.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 12:36:58 PM »
I use a tire tool of the variety that has a 45degree bend at the end with a socket  and a screwdriver blade at the other end.
The more I listen,the more I hear....and vice versa.

45/70..it's almost a religion.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 07:13:18 PM »
Stan,
Uh, not trying to be stupid or anything, but how do you turn it?  How can you get enough leverage?  I think that I have an old Chevy tire tool somewhere, but how do you get enough force on it?  Maybe I need a large friend to come do this.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2007, 12:36:48 AM »
Another trick, if you haven't already tried it, is to tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer while applying the torque.  Sometimes it will help break a stubborn bolt loose.  Also, look for a screwdriver with hexagonal shaft.  I have used a wrench on the shaft to get extra torque.  Good luck.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2007, 01:09:05 PM »
Man, everyone has some good basic ideas that I should have tried.

Well, here's the deal:  Acetone and trans fluid was a miracle worker.  I got this tidbit from "another website".  Someone there pointed out that acetone and trans fluid are two big components of Ed's Red.  I put about a tablespoon of the 50/50 mix into the stock bolt hole last night.  This morning there was some weeping out of the open, receiver end of the bolt hole, so I figured that I was good to go. 

I am not the strongest guy in the world, but it wouldn't budge last night and I broke one screwdriver in the process.  This morning.........not even a firm grip.  It just came right off.  I thought that it had slipped out or something. 

Thanks to all.  Will put up some pictures when I get done.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2007, 02:51:23 PM »
 Great job.  Glad to read that it was successful.   ;)

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 04:54:27 AM »
More than one way to skin a cat.

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Re: stock bolt frozen on Ishapore Enfield
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2007, 03:20:38 AM »
+1 on Kroil - a vast array of Kroil products sit on my bench.