Author Topic: More BIG bullets to play with!! (Read 1495 times)

quickdtoo · « **on:** November 11, 2007, 10:54:52 AM »

Got some more bullets from Ranger Rick to test in the 45-120 and maybe the 45-70 if I can find data for it, the .458" 720gr WFNGC, there isn't much room for powder in the 45-70 case, so I don't know if that's gonna work out or not. even with my throated barrels. Both are seated to just kiss the lands. Richard provided data for the 450-120 with velocities to 1479fps using XMR 4350, 1250fps with AA5744.

Tim
http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

Shown with a Remington 405gr for perspective

burntmuch · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:02:33 AM »

Thats insane

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:05:24 AM »

Tim

Did someone turn loose some of those big gray , long nose critters in your back yard again ?

stimpy

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:11:56 AM »

Ya never know when the Portland zoo is gonna have a break out!!

I've never been a plinker, that's why the big bullets are fun, I guess.

Tim

GrampaMike · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:30:54 AM »

Pesky Dinosaurs in the garden again?

Gotta get me some of those...

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:48:01 AM »

Wow, that is a big a** bullet!

rbergum95 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:05:36 PM »

thats a chipmunk load if i ever saw one!!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:09:12 PM »

Quote from: rbergum95 on November 11, 2007, 12:05:36 PM

thats a chipmunk load if i ever saw one!!

Yeah, it weighs about as much as a chipmunk!!

handi243 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:14:26 PM »

Dang Tim wish you would use a bigger bullet for squirrels!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:17:35 PM »

I wouldn't be "playin" with em if I didn't have the lead sled, believe me!!

Tim

McLernon · « **Reply #10 on:** November 11, 2007, 02:14:42 PM »

Tim, you are slowly but surely edging toward archery with these' looooog boooolits'. Are you sure you wouldn't rather be shootin' arrows?

Mc

PeterCartwright · « **Reply #11 on:** November 11, 2007, 02:41:18 PM »

I'm guessing that missile has "stages" and "boosters"?

Let us know how those monsters print...and, I'm curious to know what kind of free recoil figures you're dealing with.

canon6 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 11, 2007, 03:02:18 PM »

Let me defend Tim, you never know when you may have a pachyderm in the petunias or a leopard in the lillys, hippo in the hydrangea, or the dreaded aardvark in the angle breath.

Doug

quickdtoo · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2007, 04:27:13 PM »

LOL!!! Good one Doug, thanks!!!

I won't know the recoil figure until I find out what kind of velocity I can get with em, but if I can get 1480fps, the recoil in an 8lb BC will be 65lbs, that''s in the ball park of a 458 Lott.

Here's a 45Colt round compared to this big honker!!

Tim

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2007, 01:28:13 PM »

Tim, I do not think that heavy bullet will stabilize with 1-20" twist, what are you thinking

You could just chuck at 'em

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2007, 01:34:17 PM »

Does it matter? Can you imagine what that would do hitting sideways!!

It's not likely to stabilize in the 45-70 with so little powder charge, but in the 45-120, it might, I'll find out.

Tim

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2007, 01:53:20 PM »

It is fun to try things

It is a conversation piece, that is for sure.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2007, 04:44:03 PM »

Tim would you mind standing that against may a 223 or 243 or some other round I may be familiar with. Or could you just measure it? Thanks Dale

quickdtoo · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2007, 04:47:17 PM »

It's 1.676" long.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2007, 04:51:42 PM »

I ran it thru a Greenhill calculator, says I need a 1:18" twist.

Tim

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2007, 04:57:29 PM »

Side ways it is then!!!!!!!!

Thanks Tim

Chilachuck · « **Reply #21 on:** November 12, 2007, 05:16:36 PM »

Quick, did you put a bullet in the end of a chunk of brass pipe to tease us, or is that an actual cartridge there on the right?

d_hiker · « **Reply #22 on:** November 12, 2007, 05:26:22 PM »

The 12 gauge 3" Remington BuckHammer has a 602gr slug pushing 1500 fps and it has a brutal recoil. You had better tie that Handi down.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 12, 2007, 05:30:15 PM »

That's a 45-120-3¼" Sharps Straight for my H&R Buffalo Classic 45-120.

Not a problem, got a Lead Sled DFT.

Tim

oldandslow · « **Reply #24 on:** November 13, 2007, 03:21:25 AM »

Quick, is the Leadsled that good? I have a Navy Arms rolling block replica in 50-140-550 Sharps that I don't shoot anymore because my shoulder can't take the recoil. I would like to make some more big smoke clouds with it.

PartsMan · « **Reply #25 on:** November 13, 2007, 03:34:44 AM »

I guess if they don't shoot well whole you could cut them in half and use them.

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #26 on:** November 13, 2007, 04:18:23 AM »

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2007, 04:23:05 AM »

That's funny.

Dale

quickdtoo · « **Reply #28 on:** November 13, 2007, 05:25:18 AM »

Another good one, Bil!

Quote from: oldandslow on November 13, 2007, 03:21:25 AM

Quick, is the Leadsled that good?

Yes, think how little recoil you'd feel if you added up to 60lbs of weight to your rifle!! http://www.chuckhawks.com/caldwell_lead_sled_DFT.htm

Tim

JimP. · « **Reply #29 on:** November 13, 2007, 06:00:54 AM »

Quick, I have some of the .459 720 gr bullets and .500 700 gr bullets, just got them from KDM. I plan on using the .459 720 gr bullet in my 450 Marlin Mauser bolt action rifle, i can load them to crimp in the crimp groove and still have room for powder, will post the loads and velocities when i get to testing them, unfortunately, it will be after hunting season this year, but I will test them and post it, of course I will be loading the .500 700 gr bullets in my .500 SW Mag Handi rifle, will post the results for that one also, its not crazy to me to use such heavy bullets, that is the fun of testing and shooting....Jim