Author Topic: When do we hear the news about Handi for 2008? (Read 21170 times)

Rob62 · « **Reply #90 on:** December 17, 2007, 12:22:39 PM »

Happy Holidays All,

In doing my research for a .357 Magnum chambered Handi Rifle, I spoke with the NEF/H&R Customer Service people last week.

The customer service rep informed me that the model number for the 2008 production run .357 Magnum chambered rifles will be SB2 S35. This gun is supposed to come with a scope base but no iron sights. Something I found weird for a pistol caliber rifle.

Ultimately, earlier today I bought a new SB2 S44 (.44 Magnum) Handi. It had iron sights and synthetic stock. I may now abandon my plans altogether for a .357 magnum chambered gun or accessory barrel.

Regards,
Rob

quickdtoo · « **Reply #91 on:** December 17, 2007, 12:29:33 PM »

Welcome aboard Rob! That's what the specs at RSR show it as, same for the synthetic .444. The current accessory barrel comes with sights, if they change that, you can always order a barrel and have them add the sights for an additional $47 too.

Tim

HRSB2S35 H&R HANDI RIFLE 357MG 22" BL SYN
Manufacturer H&R 1871
Model Handi Rifle
Action Single Shot
Caliber 357 Mag
Barrel Length 22"
Finish/Color Blue
Grips/Stock Synthetic
Accessories w/Scope Mount & Hammer Exten

Busta · « **Reply #92 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:59:43 PM »

Was checking out SS and noticed some new offerings. New slug guns, trap gun, MAGNUMS, Ultra Hunter 45-70 with thumbhole stock, Synthetic .44/.357/.444, and a couple pumps. I also noticed that they did not have any Sidekick muzzleloaders listed.

Looks like all Item Numbers beginning with 52XXX are new items.

Slug guns, probably with the new rifling, walnut and thumbhole stocks.
Classified as Ultra Light and Ultra Heavy. Must be taking the place of the Tracker II and USH.

H&R 12 Ga Slug Hunter/22" Rifled Barrel/3" Chamber/Walnut Stock
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52899

H&R 20 Ga Slug Hunter/22" Rifled Barrel/3" Chamber/Walnut Stock
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52900

H&R 12 Ga Slug Hunter/22" Rifled Barrel/3" Chamber/Laminated Thumbhole Stock
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52901

H&R 20 Ga Slug Hunter/22" Rifled Barrel/3" Chamber/Laminated Thumbhole Stock
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52902

12ga 30" Vent Rib Trap Gun with silver receiver and blued barrel.

H&R 12 Ga./30" Vent Rib Barrel/Modified Choke/Walnut Stock
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52889

The MAGNUMS.

52893 H&R SB2-7MM HANDI-RIFLE SYN 7MM SB 26
52894 H&R SB2-300 HANDI-RIFLE SYN 300 SB 26
~~52895 H&R SB2-398 HANDI-RIFLE SYN 338 SB 26~~

I think these are new???

52890 H&R SB2-S44 HANDI-RIFLE SYN 44MG SB 22
52891 H&R SB2-S35 HANDI-RIFLE SYN 357 SB 22
52892 H&R SB2-44S HANDI-RIFLE SYN 444 SB 22

52896 H&R SB2-T57 ULTRA HUNTER 45/70 SS THS

52888 H&R SB2-103 PARDNER WF 10 30 CTMD WAL

52897 NEW NP1-PCF PUMP 12GA 18 CYL CBN
52898 NEW NP1-C22 PUMP 12GA 22 CTXF CAM

45/70fan · « **Reply #93 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:30:13 AM »

now you have my attention...... 52895 H&R SB2-398 HANDI-RIFLE SYN 338 SB 26

deadrabbit · « **Reply #94 on:** December 22, 2007, 03:55:31 AM »

There is a sidekick listed near the bottom of the 3rd page.

More choices, I love that!

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #95 on:** December 22, 2007, 04:54:36 AM »

The trap gun sounds interesting, I wish they had a picture.

Busta · « **Reply #96 on:** December 22, 2007, 05:11:39 AM »

Quote from: deadrabbit on December 22, 2007, 03:55:31 AM

There is a sidekick listed near the bottom of the 3rd page.

More choices, I love that!

Thanks deadrabbit, I missed that one. I still don't see the Stainless Steel Sidekick though, just the blued one.

Also notice the Ultra Heavy 12ga is listed as being on a SB1 Frame.

52899   SB1S14    H&R SB1-S14 ULTRA LGHT 12 3IN 22RB WAL
52900   SB1S24    H&R SB1-S24 ULTRA LGHT 20 3IN 22RB WAL
52901   SB1T98    H&R SB1-T98 ULTRA HEVY 12 3IN 22RB THS
52902   SB1T92    H&R SB1-T92 ULTRA HEVY 20 3IN 22RB THS

quickdtoo · « **Reply #97 on:** December 22, 2007, 05:14:34 AM »

The 338 Winmag was cancelled, but still got on the price sheets.

Tim

burntmuch · « **Reply #98 on:** December 22, 2007, 11:57:23 AM »

Idont know if this has been covered or not. Now the old barrels wont fit the new recievers, but will the stocks be the same.?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #99 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:09:07 PM »

I see no reason to change the stock design, that would only increase the cost.

Tim

burntmuch · « **Reply #100 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:10:32 PM »

So the new recievers ar the same demensions?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #101 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:16:57 PM »

That's what I was told, just a tougher alloy and better heat treatment. There wil also need to be something different about the magnum barrels so they can't be used on current SB2 frames, and the frame will need to accomodate that I expect.

Tim

burntmuch · « **Reply #102 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:20:45 PM »

Well If the old stocks fit that means Im a 3rd of the way to a 7mag with t hole stock.

Landry308 · « **Reply #103 on:** December 23, 2007, 05:17:43 AM »

I see earlier in this thread that the .300 WM is supposed to be stainless barrel. My wholesaler, RSR, has them listed already (not in stock), but only in blue. Will both be available ?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #104 on:** December 23, 2007, 05:45:12 AM »

Both mags are listed as blued w synthetic stocks, the only new stainless is the 45-70 Ultra. The mags are supposed to have stainless barrels and blued frames, what we end up with remains to be seen, the .338 was also listed on the price sheets, but was cancelled. My dealer ordered one of the 7mm Mags from RSR for me a month ago.

Tim

HRSB2300 H&R HANDI RIFLE 300WIN 26" BL/STS BL
Product Specifications
Manufacturer H&R 1871
Model Handi Rifle
Action Single Shot
Caliber 300 Win
Barrel Length 26"
Finish/Color Blue
Grips/Stock Synthetic
Accessories w/Scope Mount & Hammer Extension

HRSB27MM H&R HANDI RIFLE 7MMREM 26" BL/STS BL
Product Specifications
Manufacturer H&R 1871
Model Handi Rifle
Action Single Shot
Caliber 7MM Rem
Barrel Length 26"
Finish/Color Blue
Grips/Stock Synthetic
Accessories w/Scope Mount & Hammer Extension

ccoorreeyy · « **Reply #105 on:** December 26, 2007, 10:03:37 AM »

I cant wait to get my hands on one of those 45/70 stainless thumbhole ultra's. Anybody seen a picture of one yet?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #106 on:** December 26, 2007, 10:10:04 AM »

I can slap a stainless barrel on one of my thumbhole Ultras for ya, otherwise you'll have to wait for one, the stainless 45-70 is a new barrel, dunno for sure when it will be available, when I know, you'll know.

Tim

navylawdog · « **Reply #107 on:** December 27, 2007, 02:46:41 AM »

So I was wondering if there has been any rumors of maybe making a handi or ultra in the new .17fireball caliber? And I want to say that I think gr8ful had something there with the .460 S&W. That would be a sweet little gun. Also like the .338 federal idea.

Navylawdog

quickdtoo · « **Reply #108 on:** December 27, 2007, 05:13:30 AM »

The .17 and .338 were discussed on page 1 of this thread, there are no plans for either at this time.

Tim

Fred M · « **Reply #109 on:** December 27, 2007, 01:32:57 PM »

Tim.
I will be in Vegas for the Shot Show in 2008 and will get a first hand look at
the new goodies. Don't like the idea of the synthetic stocks. Perhaps they can be had in wood stocks too.

Me I am very interested in the new Tracker II 20g with the polygonal rifling,
this got to be a hammer forged process and should produce a dimensional
consistent bore if the barrels are hammered to the final dimensions. Stress relieving would not be an issue then..

Heckler and Koch produced special weapons with this type of rifling and Lothar
Walther also makes barrels with this kind of rifling.

navylawdog · « **Reply #110 on:** December 27, 2007, 03:04:10 PM »

Thanks Tim... I seen that about the .338 but I must have missed the part about the .17 fireball. I think that would be the perfect ultra varminter but what do I know? Maybe Remington will make it happen if and when the merger goes through.

navylawdog

walkingwolf · « **Reply #111 on:** December 27, 2007, 05:07:13 PM »

dump the 338 a 375 h&h kicks like the 30-06 and will take anything you want

Busta · « **Reply #112 on:** December 31, 2007, 11:12:50 AM »

A little new information on the UltraLight Slug gun and the Trap Gun.

Some new information on the 2008 UltraLight Slug Hunter. Looks like the old days of drilling and tapping the Tracker II's is finally over. Anybody want a Slug Hunter with scope mount that weighs about 3 pounds lighter than the USH?? Looks like your prayers have been answered. I does come with the new Ultragon™ parabolic rifling. Read and enjoy!

http://www.shootingsportsretailer.com/content/view/284/4/

H&R 30" Trap Gun

http://www.shootingsportsretailer.com/content/view/273/4/

Clean your shotgun in a fraction of a second.

http://www.shootingsportsretailer.com/content/view/213/4/

Lots of good information. ENJOY!

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #113 on:** December 31, 2007, 04:31:37 PM »

Great, another shotgun that I need to get. H&R Topper Trap Gun. It's all your fault Busta!

Brett · « **Reply #114 on:** January 01, 2008, 05:48:46 AM »

That's a sweet looking shotgun. I wonder what the real wold pricing will be?

The stinger shot gun cleaning shells are a slick idea. Wish I had thought of it.

ironglow · « **Reply #115 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:54:07 AM »

Hope Remington doesn't ruin them !

xhare · « **Reply #116 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:19:02 AM »

I for one am quite happy to see that the 45-70 is going to be offered in a stainless version. The Ruger Stainless No1 retails for over $1000, can be had for less but is still sky high. Further, their stocks dont fit me well. The Thompson Centers Encore and G2 sell for several hundred less, but still several hundred more than a Handi.

I could not see the price of the 45-70 Ultra on the earlier posts. I expect it to be a good bit higher than a standard Handi, but a good bit less than the Thompson.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #117 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:31:46 AM »

The Zanders MSRP is now $00, don't remember what it was, but Sports South has it listed as over $500 SSSRP, their suggested price for the 45-70 Handi is $309 and $472 for a BC, I'm also guessing the THS is Thumbhole stock.

Tim

http://www.internetguncatalog.com/details.asp?ItemNum=52896

quickdtoo · « **Reply #118 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:37:25 AM »

I just did a search for the model number, found this...

Tim

http://catalog.huntingstuff.net/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=GSB2T57

http://catalog.guns55.com/itemlist.php?classid=HRRI

xhare · « **Reply #119 on:** January 04, 2008, 11:19:08 AM »

Thanks Tim,

I do most of my gun shopping at Whittaker's, once they get the new releases in stock I'll see what his prices are. I suspect he will beat those prices by a bit. I must admit, those prices are getting close to what TC's go for at Whittaker's. Stainless G2s without sights go for around $530 if I remember correctly, Encores for closer to $600. Still, for a stainless rifle with a laminate thumbhole stock, they should still be quite a bargin.