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Offline Jack Ryan

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22 Short
« on: November 22, 2007, 11:48:28 PM »
Has any one tried 22 shorts in one of the HR single shot rifles?

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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2007, 06:47:18 AM »
Not in an H&R but I grew up with .22 short in my Winchester single shot. My dad always insisted shorts were the best for squirrel hunting because they made so little noise they didn't disturb the woods and he claimed a short would knock a squirrel off the limb while a long rifle bullet would just zip through and sometimes leave the dead squirrel still stuck on the tree limb. They certainly are quiet, especially the standard velocity or target types. When I was a kid, shorts also were cheaper than longrifles but modern marketing has changed all of that and now shorts, if you can find them, are more costly than longrifles, I assume because of the volumes produced, shipped and marketed. The short round from a longrifle chamber is seldom very accurate but most rifles will group them well enough for head shots on small game out to 20 yards or so. Generally the standard velocity or target ammo will group a bit better than the high velocity type. You may have to try several brands to fine one your rifle likes. There is wide spread belief that firing shorts in a longrifle chamber will "ruin it" for future use with the longer cartridge. I believe that may have been true in the days of corrosive priming but with modern ammo the worst that will happen is that you'll get some build up of powder fouling and bullet lube which will need to be removed before chambering a longer case, but even that is minimal with modern ammo and if you just fire a few shorts you can return to longrifles without even a chamber cleaning.
  I think the .22 short is a very underrated round, most gun writers will tell you it is worthless for hunting but if you have a rifle which will group shorts accurately they are a fine small game round out to as far as you can keep them on the critter's brain. Canadian and Alaskan natives have used the .22 short even for deer, moose and caribou, but of course, they don't expect bang-flop, and are willing to track the animal until it goes down. A .22 short in the heart or brain will quickly kill anything in North America, it's just a matter of putting it there.
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 05:08:53 AM »
I shoot shorts exclusively in my Versa Pack.  They are all I have ever need for squrrels or 'coons.
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 07:35:30 AM »
I have fired shorts, CB caps, BB caps, Colibris, and my favorite, Super Colibris, out of my H&R/NEF Sportster and they all work fine. I have even fired them from my Marlin Model 60 by single loading them and they work just as well from that gun....<><....:)
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 07:55:57 AM »
My favorite 22 load for the marauding feline,rabbit or other very dangerous fauna in the back yard is a CCI cb short out of a Roger 10-22 single loaded.It is so quiiet it will surprise you.   Doug
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 02:13:04 PM »
Coyotejoe, My dad told me the same thing your dad did 50 years ago.

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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 03:57:41 PM »
Does anyone know why the barrel just says ".22 Long", and doesn't include short?
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 04:59:54 PM »
My Sportster shoots Super Colibris very well and they are nice and quiet. It's great for pest control and I plan on using them for squirrel hunting next week.
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 07:44:26 PM »
I used to shoot the CCI CB in my backyard and it was so quiet that the neighbors thought I was shooting a BB gun !

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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 11:58:04 PM »
out to about 25-30 yrds the cb-short does a good job.
the cb-long is not much louder, if any.. but has a lil more reach out there.
my vp has only shot the cb's.. for them treerats in the yard.. 8) ;) ;D
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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2010, 06:36:06 AM »
I have an old Husqvarna rolling block that is ONLY chambered in 22 short....I ws going to ream out the chamber to accept longs-but after trying a box of shorts,decided to leave well enough alone-its a fun gun to shoot and the 22 short is quite adequite for typical close range small game shots-if you hold it straight!I also shoot CB shorts where I don't want to let everybody in the neighbourhood know I'm shooting

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Re: 22 Short
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 04:20:26 AM »
CB shorts work well enough for me too, though I found a deal on HV Shorts a while back so I bought 3 bricks.
Watch out if you have a .22 short chambered original, the twist is probably 1:20 something and if rechambered to .22 LR it most likely will not stabilize the 40ish gr. bullets. You might get away with the hyper-velo/low bullet wt. type, but dont count on it. A lot of nice, old .22 short chambered guns were ruined this way.
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