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Offline Caspian35

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Cap and ball Q
« on: June 21, 2003, 08:41:38 AM »
I was nosing around my local Cabela's and got to the section full of cap and ball revolvers, and found some real pretty .44's. What I was wondering about was the rumors about brass backstraps bending under the recoil of a 44. Does anyone know if these are true or just rumors? Also what sort of muzzle velocity could I expect from a .36 as compared to a .44?

Offline Dan Chamberlain

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2003, 03:24:59 PM »
Caspian;

First of all, no, the backstrap will not bend under recoil.  Some of the pistols that have totally brass frames have been known to have longevity problems.  Stick with a pistol that has a steel frame and the brass grip frame will not matter at all.  

Velocities are less a consideration with a cap and ball pistol than they are with a centerfire.  You don't need a certain muzzle velocity to achieve deformation of the ball since the ball is pure lead and will deform at fairly low velocities.  Second, a true ball has a different striking surface than does a bullet.  Its face is more blunt and it imparts a greater shock than a projectile that has a more pronounced ogive.  

I shoot both .44 and .36 caliber pistols from Cabela's and I can tell you a cap and ball pistol is as accurate as any other practial sidearm at reasonable ranges.  I have a .44 target model that will shoot 2" groups at 25 yards and an 1860 .44 model that will stay inside 3" at the same range.  I have a .36 Navy that shows promise, but I haven't worked with it much yet.  

Lyman publishes a black powder handbook that lists loads and velocities.  I just purchased a chronograph a week or two ago, and have not tried it yet, but I expect the .36 to give me an honest 900 fps with a standard load of 25 grains of FFFg.  Just to let you know about their use for hunting, I took a red fox last fall with the .36 at about 10 to 15 yards.  The ball penetrated the chest through and through.  Now a fox isn't much larger than a good sized cat, but the wound was more impressive than I'd expected.  

Cap and ball revolvers are a shooting discipline unto themselves.  They are more fun than you'd expect, and one cannot really know what it was like for settlers who staked their fortune on a westward dream in the post Civil War era, unless they have really come to know the cap and ball revolver.  

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Dan C

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2003, 10:55:48 AM »
Caspian,
I've seen several Ruger Blackhawks with brass grip frames, so I would seriously doubt that there would be a problem with them bending with a cap n ball revovler.  A 357 Magnum has more recoil than any cap n ball revovler I've fired.